Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38737 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70022 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2008 18:23:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jul 2008 18:23:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.92.171 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.92.171 ug-out-1314.google.com Received: from [66.249.92.171] ([66.249.92.171:2130] helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 57/CA-14155-9091D684 for ; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:23:06 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id h3so705669ugf.29 for ; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=C9CrY4c9TsPA7AJaR2C2kfWosfALJOw6xQy+a3aysQs=; b=eRKZd28TMQbMWyqucT5myTzyaJ1/ktvpx9bMu0mVOzZYw2yvkOqxOBdWcnPAUg0mjJ LIseFyt7xukPl2n9yl2qwXpq25k5b+RiJ8POZP/tSEmyzWqd278XMmoDkPowLqA3o3wu TAsWBgwPIWxXTqAPQrF9NL4PUSeHG6un5S07o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=XqtSuqByfU2A3cyW06P0P30E57bR5ineRno8M01KAFy0TOStOIF6swcQ3qcrux2ZqQ bMAb7gkhW6NlNlIP7hsGaH7hDGbuiyZjwXSNWKNRYNTlPXJLmIPOzTibHYvGGf19IjgP XL3ox0G/uvdrJznWkB3Z3TNMrmmW3yef2pCZc= Received: by 10.67.116.9 with SMTP id t9mr1901976ugm.65.1215109382323; Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.96.8 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9b3df6a50807031123m45920a97kb92819dcf9645e83@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:23:01 +0300 To: "Keryx Web" Cc: "php-dev List" In-Reply-To: <486C9C34.6060405@keryx.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10866_30595778.1215109381574" References: <486B6960.4030705@gmx.net> <3F379336-B4DC-4495-AD76-3D52ED703E0E@pooteeweet.org> <486C8F27.20606@zend.com> <814550B7-1E4F-4E0B-A232-E2864D1CCB5C@pooteeweet.org> <486C9C34.6060405@keryx.se> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 (and forget 5.4) From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com ("Arvids Godjuks") ------=_Part_10866_30595778.1215109381574 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline +1 from me - unicode is very very needed indeed. Normaly on every project I have to deal with 3 languages - english, russian and latvian - and there is no fun in making advanced html/bbcode parser (not based on str_replace or preg_replace - it is far more complex than that) using mb_string functions. 2008/7/3 Keryx Web : > Lukas Kahwe Smith skrev: > >> But if we put the burden of being the last planned PHP 5 release onto 5.3, >> we will have huge issues getting it out the door. So please let us keep 5.4 >> on the table, but at the same time do everything we can to get PHP 6 onto >> some sort of "release schedule". >> > > Let me see if I get this. > > PHP 5.4 = 6.0 without Unicode. > PHP 6.0 = 5.4 plus Unicode. > > It sounds like PHP 5.4 is actually needed when 6.0 no longer has the > Unicode semantics on/off switch. > > FWIW, personally, I need Unicode more than I need namespaces; I need > Unicode more than I need traits; I need Unicode more than I need lambda and > closures. I need Unicode more than I need {$capability_of_choice}. All of > those things are nice, but Unicode is getting *critical*. > > > Lars Gunther > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > ------=_Part_10866_30595778.1215109381574--