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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 6 (and forget 5.4) (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Closures: updated proposal and patch)
From: gwynne@wanderingknights.org (Gwynne Raskind)

On Jul 3, 2008, at 4:41 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
>> Absolutely agree.
>>
>> I don't see any reason for 5.4. We don't plan any significant new  
>> features.
> You guys are scaring me ..
> I was hoping to evade such discussions. PHP 5.3 is probably the  
> minor version release with the most major changes ever. Mostly  
> because we waited too long to go into release mode. PHP 6 has of  
> course lingered even longer and it really really needs to get out  
> the door ASAP. Now what I would propose is that we go into release  
> mode on PHP 6 as well. Due to the nature of it being a major version  
> bump it will naturally take longer to get completed. Depending on  
> how quickly we move with PHP 5.3, we will then either release a PHP  
> 5.4 with all of the open items before PHP 6 or more or less at the  
> same time.
>
> But if we put the burden of being the last planned PHP 5 release  
> onto 5.3, we will have huge issues getting it out the door. So  
> please let us keep 5.4 on the table, but at the same time do  
> everything we can to get PHP 6 onto some sort of "release schedule".
>
> I have emailed Andrei about this offlist when I saw Derick's email.  
> But I just wanted to send this email as a sort of damage control :)

A loud +1 to this from me. Can we get an RFC into the Wiki on this?

-- Gwynne, Daughter of the Code
"This whole world is an asylum for the incurable."