Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38582 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38939 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2008 14:52:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Jun 2008 14:52:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.94.239.7 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.94.239.7 mail.jdi-ict.nl Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.94.239.7] ([82.94.239.7:37610] helo=mail.jdi-ict.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A8/8A-17106-84A01684 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:52:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.jdi-ict.nl (8.13.7/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m5OEqoUV026023; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:52:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:52:50 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: derick@kossu.ez.no To: Alexey Zakhlestin cc: Gregory Beaver , Andi Gutmans , Stanislav Malyshev , Dmitry Stogov , internals Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <485BD1C0.8040302@chiaraquartet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] simple solution to another namespace conundrum? From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Alexey Zakhlestin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Gregory Beaver wrote: > > > >> The user is obviously intentionally creating a "DateTime" class, and > >> doesn't care about the internal classname in this script. > >> > >> The attached patch against PHP_5_3 would fix the issue by eliminating > >> the check for conflict with CG(class_table) in the global namespace for > >> internal classes. It however preserves this check for userspace classes > >> so that (for instance) php-src/tests/Zend/ns_030.phpt does not fail. > >> The basic idea is that we do have control over the userspace classes we > >> include, but have no control over the internal classes. > > > > I am not so sure this is a good idea. I mean, for the developer that > > writes the code it's obvious that his version of DateTime is used. But > > for a second developer to come back later this could be a great WTF > > factor a few years down the road - wondering why the DateTime > > documentation on php.net doesn't match with what the class does. > > it won't be a serious 'wtf', as on the top of the file, there would be > some kind of > use MySuperLibrary::DateTime; I know, but 400 lines down in the code you can't really see that. This addition might fix the immediate issue - but it doesn't make life easier for the developers that have to maintain the code. Even less if they're not aware that stuff is namespaced. regards, Derick