Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38540 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72912 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2008 13:45:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jun 2008 13:45:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([127.0.0.1:27898]) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ECSTREAM id 12/8E-23032-2F8AF584 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:45:22 -0400 X-Host-Fingerprint: 193.34.64.214 unknown Received: from [193.34.64.214] ([193.34.64.214:9973] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4E/EC-23032-5BD9F584 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:57:26 -0400 Message-ID: <4E.EC.23032.5BD9F584@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:54:03 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <736AED54-1272-4924-A07D-3166A1742A2F@prohost.org> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE2FEF72@us-ex1.zend.net> <463EDD0B.7080300@lsces.co.uk> <4e89b4260705222133y185892bdie46be2e78a2e471b@mail.gmail.com> <4653DA24.8060801@pooteeweet.org> <4e89b4260705230759i64821f14y9bcb7cbcb34aa197@mail.gmail.com> <46546175.5030205@lsces.co.uk> <46546B6C.8010107@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: <46546B6C.8010107@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 193.34.64.214 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: milanb@panonnet.net (Milan Babuskov) Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > if nobody with C hacking skills is feeling sufficient pain over this, > the assumption is that the pool of users is too small or the pain is too > small. Hi, sorry for such late reply, but I just joined this group. I'm very interested in Firebird's future in PHP and I have C skills. However, to answer your assumption: the pain is too small. We have a working 'interbase' extenstion that does all the job, and does it well. I see that it might get moved to PECL or it might not, however, it is going to be working for a long time. Current PHP+Firebird users just don't feel that they need PDO. It could be used for new application development, but you'll hardly find a novice PHP user that is also willing to start hacking into PHP source code in parallel. Existing users are simply happy with pure ibase_ functions and ADOdb. Now, I don't know about that 'lot of shiny new software' being written on PDO, and don't really see that Firebird users will care much. Most of that software is meant to run for ISPs, hosting, etc. services and Firebird is still not on par with MySQL in that (web hosting) environment. I use Firebird for everything, except dynamic online websites where MySQL is simply the best choice. I hope that PDO stuff is not meant to completely replace mysql_, ibase_, etc. kind of functions in some distant future. -- Milan Babuskov http://www.flamerobin.org