Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38480 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26624 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2008 16:40:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jun 2008 16:40:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=indeyets@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=indeyets@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.170.186 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: indeyets@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.170.186 rn-out-0910.google.com Received: from [64.233.170.186] ([64.233.170.186:47033] helo=rn-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 40/03-12821-F5DDB584 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:40:00 -0400 Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k40so226216rnd.0 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:39:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EloAEs961nM2zD74e1YQdVsW95RnghoM5HZL2UUnq9s=; b=ReXp1OS/IsJ11m+hcBcTL0O9I/MXxAIISSzKXCqGgMtS9/60KaJ/m5v9Q0KEFlBqlc qeNnx+n1JGaK2vrTYlisgo5djU2tCkqJDWTPLz+QLI2NaQPQPdKcy4nvrdZV+XyCKH8y TcWipDrKgLe6Mf9yAG/0GNJ6Z6X6GkSPKrIZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=RA/7irXnOZvREN8D0lVGARCTNB6H4MXZnKIiKV+HQx9SqmIya3hLxROztkIcgcLXPB YAHCtTF3sbyvgt/AE5OUEqaNoAYi9JQ61GxVrf6nMPAksz9UWhjKjdOG28aqc4rSiqzM UdNA2DlSDLMdnzMPetQQ4BqhmBIxV0wWprlLs= Received: by 10.142.81.7 with SMTP id e7mr1472669wfb.320.1213979997001; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.158.8 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:39:56 +0400 To: "Etienne Kneuss" Cc: "PHP internals" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] LSB forward_static_call() From: indeyets@gmail.com ("Alexey Zakhlestin") On 6/20/08, Etienne Kneuss wrote: > To sum up key points about each possibilities: > > 1) forward_static_call > + no need to affect the engine > - slow, painful > > 2) parent:: carries the info while ParentClassName:: doesn't > + convenient > + no functionnality lost > - introduces a difference between parent:: and classname::, but > restricted to LSB so no BC break > > It really seems like (2) is the most PHP way of doing things, while > (1) is more of a hack that we will regret later. > The only problem about (2) is that difference, but I really feel (and > experienced in the multiple help channels that I'm in) that people > already see (wrongly for now) classname:: and parent:: as slightly > different. So introducing it as of 5_3 wouldn't be too much of a > shock. The point is that: people who uses LSB will be aware of that > difference and will use parent:: vs classname:: carefully, while > others will be able to ignore it > > So, I really would like to revert that foward_static_call stuff and > implement the parent:: patch instead, while it's still possible. > > thoughts? I am all for it. that would be "intuitive" way of doing things, like I already stated before -- Alexey Zakhlestin http://blog.milkfarmsoft.com/