Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38334 Return-Path: <stas@zend.com> Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39045 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2008 20:13:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jun 2008 20:13:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:25684] helo=mx1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 26/09-24906-FEA18584 for <internals@lists.php.net>; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:13:37 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by mx1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:13:41 +0300 Received: from [192.168.17.83] ([192.168.17.83]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:12:59 -0700 Message-ID: <48581AC1.6010804@zend.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:12:49 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> CC: Christian Seiler <chris_se@gmx.net>, Johannes Schlueter <johannes@schlueters.de>, php-dev List <internals@lists.php.net> References: <4856A547.3080801@gmx.net> <1961603263.20080617120320@marcus-boerger.de> <4857ACE1.3050501@gmx.net> <1178748433.20080617211038@marcus-boerger.de> <48580E5C.9090100@zend.com> <1164326521.20080617215115@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <1164326521.20080617215115@marcus-boerger.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2008 20:12:59.0717 (UTC) FILETIME=[89F43F50:01C8D0B6] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [PATCH] [RFC] Closures and lambda functions in PHP From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > nicely put but not in agreement with the PHP world. First we cannot add > a new feature like this in a mini release as it comes with an API change. > And second PHP is not anywhere close so we'd have to do it in a PHP 5.4 > and personally I would like to avoid it. You meant "PHP 6 not anywhere close"? well, if we keep adding completely new stuff to 5.3 then 5.3 would not be anywhere close so what we earn by that? I understand that we all want new and cool stuff in PHP, but endlessly delaying 5.3 is not the answer. And this feature is a big thing, it's not adding yet another module or function - it should be thoroughly reviewed and seen how it affect all other things. It's probably very cool addition, but yet more reason to consider all the side effects and surprises on the way. Pushing it in now would mean we'd either have to delay 5.3 yet another half-year or we'd release buggy 5.3 and then we'd be bound by API compatibility and couldn't fix things that we might want to fix. I think as much as we want to add yet another cool feature - we have to release versions for the users to actually be able to enjoy features we already added, from time to time. And time for 5.3 is very much due, and we still have a bunch of work to do on it. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com