Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38300 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63882 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2008 21:49:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2008 21:49:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:39076] helo=mx1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F2/BC-06776-CEFD6584 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 17:49:33 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by mx1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:49:38 +0300 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:42:15 -0700 Message-ID: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE01B113E1@us-ex1.zend.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] New flame Thread-Index: AcjOa5IqTxj+te99ROWwLiWOD3Z4oABjXENw References: <00cf01c8c242$f1a6ce10$4401a8c0@foxbox> <10845a340805300354y35e28f30r30eb6e8edebf0ef1@mail.gmail.com> <48422F7C.1030002@zend.com> To: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" , "Stas Malyshev" Cc: "Steph Fox" , "internals" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2008 21:49:38.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF9B4E10:01C8CFFA] Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] New flame From: andi@zend.com ("Andi Gutmans") > -----Original Message----- > From: Lukas Kahwe Smith [mailto:mls@pooteeweet.org] > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:10 PM > To: Stas Malyshev > Cc: Steph Fox; internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New flame >=20 > > I was under impression parser multibyte support wasn't yet fixed. > > Was it? >=20 > Maybe we should decide if this a show stopper or not. From my > understanding we still do not have any example of this being used in > the wild .. This is used when reading scripts that are in encodings like Shift-JIS which is very common in Japan. In any case, I have tried to get involvement from some people I know over there without much success. My preference would be to push out a beta ASAP to start solicitation feedback and start the process (which will take quite a bit of time anyway and is likely to require at least a couple of betas and probably 2-4 RCs). At some point one just has to draw the line and get things going or we'll have infinite feature creep. Even though many may be legit there are other versions of PHPs coming out and also the RM can make some exceptions during the beta cycle if the changes are low risk and make sense (this has been common practice so far). This is also likely to wake up our friends in the far east who have a vested interest in keeping multibyte enabled in the scanner and we can then work with them to use the PHP 5.2.x code where possible if/when they wake up and scream... Andi