Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38297 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45989 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2008 20:28:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2008 20:28:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:38159] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 47/A9-06776-EFCC6584 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:28:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24431EBC018; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:30:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wrJ4nP4tfW1D; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-57-23-243.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.23.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEF81EBC013; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <689AC793-C8C2-4765-9DB4-E9A818A090E0@pooteeweet.org> To: Stanislav Malyshev , PHP Developers Mailing List In-Reply-To: <4856C764.7030103@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:28:16 +0200 References: <00cf01c8c242$f1a6ce10$4401a8c0@foxbox> <10845a340805300354y35e28f30r30eb6e8edebf0ef1@mail.gmail.com> <48422F7C.1030002@zend.com> <4856C764.7030103@zend.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New flame From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 16.06.2008, at 22:04, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> Maybe we should decide if this a show stopper or not. From my > > We had this functionality in 5.x. People used it. There's no reason > to drop it except for patch authors not implementing it. > > I think it's just wrong to submit patch dropping significant chunk > of PHP engine functionality, and then deciding - bah, I don't feel > like fixing it, so let's just ignore it as if it never existed. > Remember, most of PHP users - and even more so for non-US users - > don't read internals@ and know nothing about it. You can't just post > a note in a disused lavatory^W^Winternal developers list and expect > all millions of users to be informed. We don't really want to be the > Vogons for PHP users, do we? > > > understanding we still do not have any example of this being used > in the > > wild .. > > It is used by Japanese users, please look at the archives. > right .. so it was mentioned .. show us the code. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org