Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38296 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40847 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2008 20:08:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jun 2008 20:08:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:31627] helo=mx1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D6/A8-06776-D48C6584 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:08:46 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by mx1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:08:51 +0300 Received: from [192.168.16.110] ([192.168.16.110]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:05:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4856C764.7030103@zend.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:04:52 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith CC: Steph Fox , internals References: <00cf01c8c242$f1a6ce10$4401a8c0@foxbox> <10845a340805300354y35e28f30r30eb6e8edebf0ef1@mail.gmail.com> <48422F7C.1030002@zend.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2008 20:05:01.0930 (UTC) FILETIME=[42C1FCA0:01C8CFEC] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New flame From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Maybe we should decide if this a show stopper or not. From my We had this functionality in 5.x. People used it. There's no reason to drop it except for patch authors not implementing it. I think it's just wrong to submit patch dropping significant chunk of PHP engine functionality, and then deciding - bah, I don't feel like fixing it, so let's just ignore it as if it never existed. Remember, most of PHP users - and even more so for non-US users - don't read internals@ and know nothing about it. You can't just post a note in a disused lavatory^W^Winternal developers list and expect all millions of users to be informed. We don't really want to be the Vogons for PHP users, do we? > understanding we still do not have any example of this being used in the > wild .. It is used by Japanese users, please look at the archives. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com