Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38243 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64249 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2008 09:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Jun 2008 09:05:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=thekid@thekid.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=thekid@thekid.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain thekid.de from 212.227.126.174 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: thekid@thekid.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.227.126.174 moutng.kundenserver.de Received: from [212.227.126.174] ([212.227.126.174:53872] helo=moutng.kundenserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 25/88-06776-86BD4584 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:05:45 -0400 Received: from kartofel (krlh-4dbdd31b.pool.einsundeins.de [77.189.211.27]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML2xA-1K7oBB3IsO-0005V9; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:05:41 +0200 Message-ID: <007001c8cec6$fc60ade0$14b2a8c0@kartofel> To: "internals" References: Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:05:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18lmapYcgndrRtcZhHDlQZeUGz6Dr7f6pPnhKt QyEcTeGV0xgCj2bzGrpjmGr6NLWthKXTm9eyb38Bz2W1ivTpA9 jj7S2qwk0rxkaRwYzFaLw== Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop From: thekid@thekid.de ("Timm Friebe") Hi, > Can be moved PECL > - interbase > - fpdf > - fbsql > - sybase and sybase_ct Sybase can be moved, it is unmaintained. I would've done this long ago if I could, karma-wise. Sybase_ct works perfectly for us at 1&1 and despite feature requests that exist and me not having put big efforts into it over the past years it serves millions of requests a day without problems. The next big step would be to add all the `if (unicode)`-stuff needed for PHP6 and/or to port it to a PDO driver, which I frankly don't have time to do. If an extension is moved to PECL, it is a bit more of a hassle to install it: Windows: instead of enabling it in php.ini you need to download the dll (not sure who builds that? Is it done automatically?) / Un*x: Get a .tar.gz, unpack, phpize, configure and make (last time I tried that didn't work for me, must've been some wrong auto-whatever). Plus I'm not sure how developing works, would you mess up your PHP checkout tree by copying the pecl/ext/XXX to php-src/ext/XXX and the running all these magic autotools? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I guess that's what people on both sides - extension developers and PHP users - are afraid of when you announce PECL-moves, right? Before you say "PECL is not siberia" think about the following: If PECL moves wouldn't hurt the user experience for any partys involved, why would any extension live in php-src/ext/? - Timm