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To: Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] The battle between users and developers
From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith)


On 15.06.2008, at 09:50, Lester Caine wrote:

> They have had the discussion and since the php_interbase driver *IS*  
> working fine with Firebird since Ard produced the PHP5 version of it  
> then there has been no requirement to replace Ard's effort. None of  
> the people actively using Firebird on PHP can see the need to invest  
> any time in PDO but because of the bugs introduced in the 64 bit  
> linux builds of php_interbase we are trying to get some time  
> invested into that. The core development work in FB has been  
> unicode, and any work on the driver for PHP6 is stalled until there  
> is something that can actually be done :(


Ok, to spell it out one last time: If windows support cannot be  
provided in 5.3, there is a good chance that this will increase the  
likelihood that interbase driver will soon be out of PHP core, even if  
it still works on Linux. Also to remind you once again, our windows  
guy has gone missing and we are rebuilding things from scratch for  
5.3. If this is not enough of a problem to fix, then so be it.

If you continue to shout, then we have a good chance of being the  
first (or among a very small group of people) to be banned from this  
list. Though this is of course not my call to make.

regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
mls@pooteeweet.org