Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38236 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48731 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2008 07:09:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Jun 2008 07:09:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:58747] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 86/D5-06776-630C4584 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:09:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896FA1EBC014; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:11:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b1JSG3SKU3XY; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:11:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-57-23-243.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.23.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A625A414400A; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:11:16 +0200 (CEST) Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: <9C3DF443-1D06-4654-B519-4AABD37B9806@pooteeweet.org> To: Lester Caine In-Reply-To: <4854BCAC.8090001@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:09:16 +0200 References: <4854BCAC.8090001@lsces.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] The battle between users and developers From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 15.06.2008, at 08:54, Lester Caine wrote: > From Pierre >> Playing off base. What I proposed you is to help us to get your >> software continue to run smoothly with PHP, while keeping the windows >> support. In the end you may even get a faster version on windows, but >> I suppose you don't care about that (poor customers ;) . > > This I think is part of the current battle - and it is a battle - > between those of us who use and spend a lot of our time SUPPORTING > PHP use in the field. I hope the purpose if this post was to vent .. and I hope that you are now vented. Aside from this you just wasted the time of anyone who has actually read your post, hoping that there would actually be some relevant content to read. Instead you can shouted, which several people have asked you not to do. Lester next time you are about to click "send" on a mail where you have capitalized entire words, please take a deep breather and hit deleted instead. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org PS: How about instead sending a mail to the firebird foundation, to which you seem well conntected, and see if they can help?