Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38218 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 48985 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2008 16:10:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Jun 2008 16:10:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.227 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.227 rv-out-0506.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.227] ([209.85.198.227:30615] helo=rv-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F8/C7-06776-F8DE3584 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:10:56 -0400 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g37so4566089rvb.23 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:10:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DHU3xMa1LkWZ3ysqiPPHMqzRNdUwwU+Nst4L4ZGLnJ8=; b=YgI0mMzbLoIGBEwl9tY3PSWceJeQ7njMQNEf361K3SEux/+Rbb+fgCCwShtQwjHhLa FIaRN37scPrh9R1C1v4MIjvp7xMCNeLSId+Uf44pBZ+a7fPNXzls0s2+2Y4KX83m4PJD Kof3sk67SQ1HsnOgE4Inrd5IaStYbk/KcT8ps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=qapZIzYQur7bcQ/8/EDEh6ntnQS+vwo5MkZ+UXFeOAbD0UwjFtT/1ejrwDooYFBcG+ /F5EVrnRgH0aNOklhMWipEyKe8eRa1hQs3hNNSJT1erWQupbdKWPCKERJSdFBgDt0574 K8V64QeEj/bfueZrRmch+/28496U01vy58FCw= Received: by 10.141.122.20 with SMTP id z20mr2624308rvm.93.1213459852772; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.178.14 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:10:52 +0200 To: "Rasmus Lerdorf" Cc: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" , internals In-Reply-To: <4853E716.9040300@lerdorf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0497E5D4-1F92-4463-B98D-BE6B877B36B7@pooteeweet.org> <6C9C74CD-6271-44BD-B285-2B2BA66C0C56@pooteeweet.org> <4853E716.9040300@lerdorf.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye") On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Pierre Joye wrote: >> >> Hi Lukas, >> >> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith >> wrote: >> >>> These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an effort >>> to >>> support them. >> >> If it is so widely used, why noone complains about this removal? Why >> there is nobody taking care of the bugs or sending patches? > > I don't think this argument works very well. If we were to apply that in > general terms, we should probably drop Windows support completely because > there are pretty much no Windows users taking care of bugs, nor sending > patches. There are a couple, I don't want to make their contributions seem > insignificant, but the ratio of users to contributors is terrible for the > Windows platform. You are right, that's not a good argument. However I'm still not sure about how it helps to have it in the core. What if I release them through PECL of the current state and apply patches or write fixes if there is reports and tests? DLLs can be built as well using what we had in the last 5.2 releases. That will make no difference for the users and will ease my work (sorry to be egoist :). > For something like the SNMP extension, it works ok. SNMP isn't exciting in > any way. I did some work on it so it got to the point where it was useful > to me, and there have been a couple of requests over the years to extend it, > but I think for most people it does all it needs to do. Agreed, that's why I made a call for love first and did not work well so far. Maybe you can motivate Brian :) Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org