Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38217 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47283 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2008 16:05:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Jun 2008 16:05:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.125 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.125 c2bthomr07.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.125] ([213.123.20.125:25722] helo=c2bthomr07.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DC/67-06776-A4CE3584 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:05:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr07.btconnect.com with ESMTP id BGB76472; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:05:23 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4853EC48.6080307@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:05:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <0497E5D4-1F92-4463-B98D-BE6B877B36B7@pooteeweet.org> <6C9C74CD-6271-44BD-B285-2B2BA66C0C56@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: <6C9C74CD-6271-44BD-B285-2B2BA66C0C56@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr07.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A09020B.4853EC47.01C8,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=127.0.0.1, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.4.3/2008-02-01 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] extensions status, to move to pecl or to drop From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >>>> - interbase >>>> - fbsql >>>> - sybase and sybase_ct >>> >>> I think moving fbsql is quite reasonable. However interbase and >>> sybase I do >>> not agree with. >> >> Who will maintain them? Who can we ask when there is issues (besides >> the obvious ones)? > > These extension seem widely used enough that we have to make it an > effort to support them. Removing them is removing a key feature our user > base experts to find. Now for PHP6 I see this a bit differently, > especially provided we have decent support for these databases via PDO. Apart from the problems created by changes made to the interbase driver in the 5.1 and early 5.2 cycle ( the 64 bit version of which STILL has not been repaired :( ) the driver still works fine with modern builds of Firebird so there as been no need to improve on it. Those of us who use it have not been persuaded that PDO has any advantage as yet, especially when you add ADOdb in as a back end, so there is NOT a suitable version of PDO for interbase/firebird and no one is working on THAT, so PLEASE do not remove the one package that is working well :( As yet we have not identified any new functions in Firebird 2.1 that can not still be accessed via current driver, so there has not even been a need to spend time building an environment in which we can compile our own copies. The binary versions supplied in Linux and Windows simply work. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php