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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Short syntax for array literals [...]
From: rodrigo.saboya@bolsademulher.com (Rodrigo Saboya)

Hi, I've been reading internals for a while and after reading some 
messages in this specific topic (Short syntax for array literals) I 
decided to give some userland input here as it seems it's somewhat a 
rare ocurrence in this list.

If I had to guess, I'd say most people don't consider themselves worthy 
to send input because they lack the knowledge to do so, being an 
userland developer and not knowing a single line of code of the PHP core 
(that's the reason I merely read this list instead of contributing). I 
feel like nothing I have to say will help in any way, insted it will 
only clutter the list.

Regarding this topic, I'd be happy to see this feature in the language 
as I feel much more comfortable writing

$var = [ 1, 2, 3 ];

than

$var = array(1, 2, 3);

While I understand the concerns about readability and how this code will 
look for the newcomers, I consider this syntax very natural and it 
doesn't break backwards compatibility as it doesn't replaces the old 
syntax, simply adds a new one.

I'll be contributing with my input as userland developer from now on if 
it seems fit.

regards
Rodrigo Saboya

Sebastian Deutsch escreveu:
> Hello Lars,
> 
> for an ambitious userland developer it is not very easy to follow this 
> list and even join the
> discussions (though I think it's worth).
> 
> Maybe there should be a point where some discussions from internals 
> should be taken to lang - better
> not this one, I don't want to fuel the fire again - but some discussions 
> really should.
> 
> But this is a matter of process, especially extracting the results and 
> save it at a place that is more accessible
> and persistent than the mailing list archives. This process should not 
> imply that what's proposed there
> should be realised - in the end the core developers have to make the 
> final decision. This process should be
> an decision helper for all core developers who are undecided.
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> Lars Strojny schrieb:
>> Hi Sebastian,
>>
>> Am Freitag, den 30.05.2008, 18:23 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Deutsch:
>> [...]
>>  
>>> Nonetheless I feel that the userland is less represented on the 
>>> internals list - do you have a proposal to hear their voice?
>>>     
>>
>> Well, they can subscribe, can't they?
>> http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php
>>
>> cu, Lars
>>   
> 
>