Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38031 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52354 invoked from network); 31 May 2008 16:00:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 May 2008 16:00:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([127.0.0.1:2810]) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ECSTREAM id 40/BC-02182-22671484 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 12:00:34 -0400 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sebastian.deutsch@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sebastian.deutsch@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.182.184 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sebastian.deutsch@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.182.184 nf-out-0910.google.com Received: from [64.233.182.184] ([64.233.182.184:55956] helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3D/7C-02182-E1271484 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 11:43:27 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b11so169818nfh.13 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:43:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=4XmTaHVIG61/MzG3uay0Bad3PaUsOUSVZCvq6uz3mA8=; b=EFeslv4FXl0yFF3pp/iZqYI2mL3YW9+Tco/dTiAydPTGaN79Mlt9CqId6nC4AE1rQ63osAJe7/m7Q9gBHF4hdBbo9WgjiMG6FOZd5gniSQsZbKktHCh7lL1Cz4ndneSuMktKYLcD8qIaipvdOJqCLiKUN8pWws6WfVtTOmET/lA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=YhoKRpnUYren5OQRl3xMsb66SU3ukCPCM5XuaV/3b74HNwv0ZdWzsnwhDD/drdMhFj69WseBS+rEvRZKQWG1p+GQLRkirsl+EGyTN/X+zM57YpnMjDGsPqE/43yECtPdRb4ALcPYhGO14m/nZhPM3swe8C82gDP1zRdxEftODJw= Received: by 10.210.62.12 with SMTP id k12mr128295eba.174.1212248603100; Sat, 31 May 2008 08:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.96? ( [83.135.125.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k5sm12080967nfh.39.2008.05.31.08.43.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 May 2008 08:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48417202.9040507@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:42:58 +0200 Reply-To: sebastian.deutsch@9elements.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Strojny , internals@lists.php.net References: <0412F6FE505049F7901EAB8C61774839@pc> <1212087326.20983.22.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> <1212097521.2979.11.camel@goldfinger.johannes.nop> <50.44.55660.02A20484@pb1.pair.com> <1212236851.8837.0.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1212236851.8837.0.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090400020209030609040408" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Short syntax for array literals [...] From: sebastian.deutsch@gmail.com (Sebastian Deutsch) --------------090400020209030609040408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Lars, for an ambitious userland developer it is not very easy to follow this list and even join the discussions (though I think it's worth). Maybe there should be a point where some discussions from internals should be taken to lang - better not this one, I don't want to fuel the fire again - but some discussions really should. But this is a matter of process, especially extracting the results and save it at a place that is more accessible and persistent than the mailing list archives. This process should not imply that what's proposed there should be realised - in the end the core developers have to make the final decision. This process should be an decision helper for all core developers who are undecided. Sebastian Lars Strojny schrieb: > Hi Sebastian, > > Am Freitag, den 30.05.2008, 18:23 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Deutsch: > [...] > >> Nonetheless I feel that the userland is less represented on the >> internals list - do you have a proposal to hear their voice? >> > > Well, they can subscribe, can't they? > http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php > > cu, Lars > --------------090400020209030609040408--