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Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:54:33 +0100
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To: "Steph Fox" <steph@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] New flame
From: rquadling@googlemail.com ("Richard Quadling")

2008/5/30 Steph Fox <steph@zend.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to set the world on fire before disappearing off for the rest of
> the day, so bear with me :)
>

At this stage, I was going to say "Congratulations, go off and enjoy
yourself. You deserve it!".

Then I read the rest of the message. Now I realize it wasn't an
announcement of a new l'amour.

> PHP 5.3 appears (to me at least) ready for release, give or take a bit of
> ironing.

Win32 mail() doesn't.

>The only problem is the one of other-version compatibility, which
> really is a PHP 6 issue. We can't (well we can but it doesn't work well)
> future-proof our code with any certainty that we're doing so correctly. That
> goes for both internal code (where it matters slightly less in that it
> doesn't affect users) and userland code (where it matters a lot).
>
> If you adapt userland code in PHP 5.3 to run under PHP 6, you lose back
> compatibility prior to PHP 5.2.1.
>
> If this changes in PHP 6 after PHP 5.3 is released, ie PHP 6 is made more
> BC-friendly at too late a stage, there are likely to be an awful lot of
> users complaining about their wasted time re-writing code when they had to
> make a choice between FC and BC.
>
> I therefore see tackling the BC issues in PHP 6 as a priority at this point
> for this reason. I know a handful of developers (Tony, Scott, Andrei to name
> the main movers at present) are ready to start working on HEAD again once
> its direction is settled, and I'm concerned it's all going to come too late
> to prevent a minor crisis of confidence.
>
> So can we focus on 6 for a bit please? Like, make it Unicode-only and iron
> out the BC issues arising from that as far as is possible?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Steph
>
>
>
>
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