Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38002 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 45115 invoked from network); 29 May 2008 20:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 May 2008 20:38:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com does not designate 64.97.136.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.177 smtpout0177.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.177] ([64.97.136.177:19082] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6A/1A-03918-D341F384 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 16:38:23 -0400 Received: from sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 4769316E016312D3; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:38:11 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,11e00fbf86f39db5,2659b82809ca53c9,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:152:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:945:960:967:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1676:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2393:2525:2559:2563:2682:2685:2857:2859:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3353:3622:3653:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938: 3941:3944:3947:3950:4250:5007:6119:6261:7679:7875:7903:8660,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none,TSO:0 X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (host81-155-113-213.range81-155.btcentralplus.com [81.155.113.213]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 May 2008 20:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <033201c8c1cc$15ab34d0$4401a8c0@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Derick Rethans" Cc: "internals" References: <012701c8bb44$68f8b880$4401a8c0@foxbox> Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:39:24 +0100 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: allow_call_pass_by_reference From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") Hi Derick, > I don't think we should get rid of it, or add a notice/message/whatever. > Because this: > > http://pastebin.com/d6e055957 > > could not be done without call time pass by ref right now. So unless > that's fixed, we shouldn't deprecate it. Hm. Actually those 'expected values' are wrong because 12 is itself an array and so isn't seen as an array element. But I take your point. On the other hand, call_time_pass_reference already *is* deprecated and has been for the last 8 years, so maybe fixing PHP to allow it where it makes sense might be a good way to go? Johannes mentioned call_user_func() on irc too: