Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:37997 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64030 invoked from network); 29 May 2008 16:14:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 May 2008 16:14:32 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 83.135.72.86 i53874856.versanet.de Received: from [83.135.72.86] ([83.135.72.86:8282] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 20/EA-03918-666DE384 for ; Thu, 29 May 2008 12:14:32 -0400 Message-ID: <20.EA.03918.666DE384@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:14:09 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0412F6FE505049F7901EAB8C61774839@pc> <87.77.15519.9E47C384@pb1.pair.com> <97.F8.15519.1229C384@pb1.pair.com> <483C94EA.90507@zend.com> <483C95DD.6000006@sci.fi> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE01A53A06@us-ex1.zend.net> <1211994665.7621.39.camel@ipso.snappymail.ca> <483E31AE.6000104@lerdorf.com> <002801c8c19d$01a86ae0$04f940a0$@com> In-Reply-To: <002801c8c19d$01a86ae0$04f940a0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 83.135.72.86 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Short syntax for array literals [...] From: sebastian.deutsch@9elements.com (Sebastian Deutsch) I think a public voting system is not a good thing (though the idea appealed me in the first place) - but I was convinced that it would lead to vote without discussion. For "listening to the user base" I originally had a headline "Discussion on the Web" were I refered to some blog posts covering that topic. Actually someone removed it by "Discussion on the List". Jonathan Bond-Caron schrieb: > It's a big +1 for me and this sums it up > >> PHP is about building on the knowledge and experience of the typical >> target user. This target user changes slowly as we all get older and >> the industry we are in changes and we need to recognize that and adapt >> the language appropriately. What is appropriate is of course a really >> hard call which is what this is all about. > > My first concern about the [] debate is no one is really asking what the > users want? Where did the [] requirement or proposal come from? There's no > doubt in my mind that a [] synthax is something most users would want. The > similar array declaration to javascript also further reinforces the use of > PHP for web based programming. > > Finally, having a public voting system would definitely help gain more > insight as to what users want. > >