Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:37957 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84881 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 09:35:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2008 09:35:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jonllmsed@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jonllmsed@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.178.243 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jonllmsed@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.178.243 hs-out-0708.google.com Received: from [64.233.178.243] ([64.233.178.243:2574] helo=hs-out-0708.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 21/4B-15519-D772D384 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 05:35:57 -0400 Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id j58so1618594hsj.7 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:35:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=AZjc/34uCt4PFVf+l9yZf25vf5y0e19ink9WRqojiNY=; b=gPIWAm+siZBYhXS7xxBoSj8up1dszqW1c7roRuBRpbkjGDeSfQu4bw//AQkhOiLEP84/Pgzns4DAld04uWTaF/LJxf6drdDbHYnaCPKvkQ4jefBucec8gxTk8BzGf+EH6mSd9WCbxr3iVUg8tSDuWjGDeOIP7vImgFMistu5SZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nMkBbnNg0JN5Tpv5oMFU5l/BWfGnfBVRKa6nFgSTHKdCAM+3Ei5oLCMAaKkrm3FBD53VlwNy6CaJynnIBybuWd/MM26SNg21STJzD524HxZmNdVjzKAwBZAKmsGOm4N67e+P/YawPczina9zBSqzR3/nM4eJmiWkBpeAkWNWbzA= Received: by 10.90.116.9 with SMTP id o9mr3185290agc.87.1211967354826; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.29.16 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2008 02:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5ad2dbbf0805280235v6194fd76wfd7430702ddae795@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 04:35:54 -0500 To: Lokrain Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <345fd5cd0805280147q73b46807vc9b6ad0778a96f9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16528_7665268.1211967354822" References: <0412F6FE505049F7901EAB8C61774839@pc> <483CFF33.6060302@lerdorf.com> <483D05B6.30804@daylessday.org> <200805281032.49016.et@php.net> <345fd5cd0805280147q73b46807vc9b6ad0778a96f9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Short syntax for array literals [...] From: jonllmsed@gmail.com ("Jon L.") ------=_Part_16528_7665268.1211967354822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Antony Dovgal wrote: > > The next step would be to call me a blasphemer and pronounce anathema upon > me because I refuse to vote for a feature that have already been voted > against. > But why not? Go on, vote forever until it's in. > From the looks of things, animosity also exhibits elasticity; cause, that's one hell of a stretch. (You want to reel it back in a bit?) I do find it funny the type of argument this has become (it'd be even better if the demography actually matched): - the kids want to do something new cause - well - everyone else is doing it - but, the parents have their house rules and traditions and are steadfast against breaking them. In that regard, I'd be a kid. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Lokrain wrote: > > But I have a question, people here talk that this is very very useful in > some cases. Can you please show others such cases so we can get your point? > I really want to know this super hyper cases, this syntax is mega useful. > You can't see the enormous difference between array(5, 3) and [5, 3]?! ;) Ok, so "easier" probably wasn't the best word to use. "Shorter" works; but, it isn't as enticing. The only ease I can see in it is simply for familiarity (see "kids argument" above). Though, the amount of ease will obviously vary from one person to another. - Jon L. ------=_Part_16528_7665268.1211967354822--