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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Short syntax for array literals [...]
From: tony@daylessday.org (Antony Dovgal)

On 28.05.2008 12:03, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>> Want me to find some more 50 people to vote against it?
> 
> If you find 50 active commiters against it

Ah, you mean active commiters..
Then you probably will want to know that the actual number is 6:5 
if you count only active contributors and not 21:8. 
Where did you manage to find 21 active commiter btw?

>> We're having a conference these days, I believe I can find even more 
>> people just to show you how meaningless these votes are =)
> 
> OK, they are meaningless. What is meaningful?

The reason?
 
>> Wasn't that the main reason FOR adding this syntax?
>> The array() thing seems to you too hard to read and maintain, no?
> 
> Yes. In many cases new one is better than the old one. In some cases, it 
> might not be - but nobody proposes to remove array(). One can find a way 
> to mangle almost any syntax - that's not the point. The point is that it 
> *is* useful in a lot of cases.

Nice.
So you can present PHP users as senseless robots that are unable to understand 
array() syntax and I can't point to the extreme UNreadability of [] because .. 
because .. you do not agree?

The next step would be to call me a blasphemer and pronounce anathema upon me 
because I refuse to vote for a feature that have already been voted against.
But why not? Go on, vote forever until it's in.

-- 
Wbr, 
Antony Dovgal