Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:37951 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67123 invoked from network); 28 May 2008 08:03:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2008 08:03:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:13795] helo=mx1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FC/28-15519-AC11D384 for ; Wed, 28 May 2008 04:03:23 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by mx1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 28 May 2008 11:04:35 +0300 Received: from [192.168.17.46] ([192.168.17.46]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 28 May 2008 01:04:31 -0700 Message-ID: <483D11C2.5070009@zend.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 03:03:14 -0500 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony Dovgal CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <0412F6FE505049F7901EAB8C61774839@pc> <87.77.15519.9E47C384@pb1.pair.com> <97.F8.15519.1229C384@pb1.pair.com> <483CF9E9.2010803@daylessday.org> <483CFAE0.203@zend.com> <483CFBAB.8030400@daylessday.org> <483CFF33.6060302@lerdorf.com> <483D05B6.30804@daylessday.org> <483D0AF0.5050902@zend.com> <483D0CCE.7070709@daylessday.org> In-Reply-To: <483D0CCE.7070709@daylessday.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2008 08:04:31.0909 (UTC) FILETIME=[75CF0550:01C8C099] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Short syntax for array literals [...] From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Want me to find some more 50 people to vote against it? If you find 50 active commiters against it - I think it'd make sense to hear what they have to say. Ask them why they didn't say anything by now. > We're having a conference these days, I believe I can find even more > people just to show you how meaningless these votes are =) OK, they are meaningless. What is meaningful? > Wasn't that the main reason FOR adding this syntax? > The array() thing seems to you too hard to read and maintain, no? Yes. In many cases new one is better than the old one. In some cases, it might not be - but nobody proposes to remove array(). One can find a way to mangle almost any syntax - that's not the point. The point is that it *is* useful in a lot of cases. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com