Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:37659 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41897 invoked from network); 15 May 2008 06:10:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 May 2008 06:10:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=indeyets@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=indeyets@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.46.31 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: indeyets@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.46.31 yw-out-2324.google.com Received: from [74.125.46.31] ([74.125.46.31:48246] helo=yw-out-2324.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 38/02-27462-1E3DB284 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 02:10:41 -0400 Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so133466ywb.83 for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 23:10:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=yzZ3458miIcu28QlKFRgxWPP1OHJ/h/igUxKoOx2YHc=; b=i9Ds4wbBRjcWVgFc9YO1WL1jubkw0zp33tAzXIPDYUFzvWC4t9+d87YPQ7PZKg+zgu1dTjGECcvBe82Lf9I0lay7Q4J6dppIv4yiQdYDVSpPsNa7cJkK4aYYf1799syn4oxKAXvjj3LrRFeUtIzv6W4XAS1ZL1/AdyeHTIiK+Ig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=miaGx4pRATQlcHPwQGY0TJa2VO2KCG5HIkk3tjxfNVOecF97b3+rELJHm40um0+bpNIyK11werQOFBo/mKWagPzoShhR9abJ917O3fRJJdULVOR1peRs6XMCKmsztTSGHZjzq2Vili3ZGnPBs1s4pvR9J4zfeuCKRTqBlMf8Ya8= Received: by 10.150.202.3 with SMTP id z3mr1861225ybf.224.1210831839279; Wed, 14 May 2008 23:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.158.8 with HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 23:10:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:10:39 +0400 To: "Hector Santos" Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <482BC0DC.7000805@isdg.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <482BC0DC.7000805@isdg.net> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for a PHP-BASED Make facility From: indeyets@gmail.com ("Alexey Zakhlestin") On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Hector Santos wrote: > Folks, > > It has been suggested to me offlist that I should propose this idea on the > list. > > I've seem recent discussions about the multi-os complexities of the make > system for PHP, and there talk of using this new CMake system. > > Rather than YALTM (yet another language to master, we should have a > PHP-BASED make facility for the following reasons: It was already proposed and declined, because the main complexity is not actual "scripting" of build-process, but cross-platform differences. Autotools and CMake already have solutions for these, but if the build-systems is written from scratch we would have to "reinvent the wheel" > > - PHP is cross platform already making it possible to easily > and quickly to single source a PHP script based make system. > > - Everyone involved with PHP knows PHP so the scripts will be > maintained and enhanced by the community. > > - All that is needed with a source distribution or as a > separate distribution, is a PHPMAKE package that > might include a root folder: > > phpmake/bin minimum php binaries for the platform > i.e, php.exe, php5ts.dll for windows > > phpmake/scripts php scripts for the cross platform > make/build system > > The beauty of this is that PHP is already cross platform so everyone > involved with PHP at every OS have one thing in common, they know the PHP > language! So there would be no need to learn another MAKE language, i.e., > CMake, JavaScript, or some *nix make language, and it would offer an minimum > learning curve for improvements and enhancements by PHP contributors where > updates will immediately apply across the board for all platforms. > > It will get people like me more involved to improve the configuration and > automation of the PHP building process by developing cross platform > Interactive Console and/or GUI based frontends. > > -- > Hector Santos, CTO > Santronics Software, Inc. > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Alexey Zakhlestin http://blog.milkfarmsoft.com/