Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:37459 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8520 invoked from network); 5 May 2008 10:50:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 May 2008 10:50:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.128 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.128 c2bthomr10.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.128] ([213.123.20.128:11771] helo=c2bthomr10.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 52/91-00670-D86EE184 for ; Mon, 05 May 2008 06:50:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr10.btconnect.com with ESMTP id AXP69730; Mon, 5 May 2008 11:50:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <481EE611.9030408@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 11:48:49 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <4BD5A050-02F2-46BD-B867-FA8CA12FF1BD@macvicar.net> <48988.78.61.224.253.1209918881.nsm@avilys.eik.lt> <60526.78.61.224.253.1209928511.nsm@avilys.eik.lt> <481EB410.1090804@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr10.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090208.481EE68A.0108,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=127.0.0.1, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.4.3/2008-02-01 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Removal of unicode_semantics From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Derick Rethans wrote: > On Mon, 5 May 2008, Lester Caine wrote: > >> So from *MY* point of view unicode_semantics=on is creating a THIRD >> case to have to manage? PLEASE can someone take charge and at least >> get PHP6 moving forward to a stable alpha so that we have something >> users can be happy to test against! > > I think the reason why people are reluctant to "take charge" here is > just because of this setting. And as a result nothing is happening :( Do we need to set up some formal vote on this quite basic feature which was - I thought - the whole basis that PHP6 was being built on? Or do we have to wait another 5 years for PHP6 :( Working with Unicode does require a different mindset, and THEN overloading it by requiring complete compatibility with a non-unicode model is adding a level of complexity that has resulted in the current stalemate? I was ready to run with Unicode/PHP6 two years ago and run all the database data Unicode as well, but at present things seem to be in limbo all around? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://home.lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php