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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:29:36 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Class Properties in Interfaces?
From: robert@interjinn.com (Robert Cummings)


On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 09:22 -0700, Chris Stockton wrote:
> If you guys don't like the way interfaces work then do not use them.
> If your going to talk about cycles, just lose the abstraction all
> together.
> 
>         Important for some. You once again, with all your hand
>         flapping, assume
>         we want some kind of operation on the data. If we do not, and
>         this
>         happens a lot, then we're just wasting cycles... and order of
>         magnitude
>         more cycles.
> 
> You speak of cycles, but I downloaded your framework that you created
> and grepped for get and set methods, and what did I find? Thinks like:
>  
>     function getId()
>     {
>         return $this->sessionId;
>     }
> 
>     function setId( $newId )
>     {
>         $this->sessionId = $newId;
>     }
> 
>     function setNew( $status=true )
>     {
>         $this->newSession = true;
>     }
> 
>     function isNew()
>     {
>         return $this->newSession;
>     }
> 
>     function &getDataStructure()
>     {
>         return $this->data;
>     }
> 
> 
> This is wasting space in my mailbox, this conversation is pointless.
> I'm trying to read about thinks that are important like language
> changes.

I use both styles where I find them appropriate. I already mentioned in
a previous email that support of such a feature doesn't impact me much,
but that Jeremey's original argument is still valid. Personal attacks on
my coding style or my framework have no bearing on the topic being
discussed. My framework was originally designed 6 years ago before many
of the great features of PHP5. Feel free to sit back down and ignore
these emails. BTW, hard-drive space is cheap, "wasting space" is such a
bullshit argument for text emails.

Cheers,
Rob.
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http://www.interjinn.com
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