Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:37035 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 30374 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2008 13:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Apr 2008 13:21:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.184.239 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.184.239 wr-out-0506.google.com Received: from [64.233.184.239] ([64.233.184.239:1629] helo=wr-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5A/CD-55949-07DF5084 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:21:54 -0400 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so1462880wri.2 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:21:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=wqwCjDIXrKXobAJivs16J4Yrsfo1v2Y21FDjx5ZUuNA=; b=XwPvB9/DAIqB7QGVSbPH4UIV6l5TnQEWIyKondcWynudxriNvrxpmUd+LBH7eLG7/Kjm4q/PtD72F+mwJprj7GhWMjzU6U0UYYnvHzlNMQ/vVCe6mx+jt9KpkDC+b0eWJZmW/WgGNACIpVHgvKb69lD/zIGdF3/xArg0RtLAZlo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=goIlj1HSAXfQFT6Mdn7hw2Pu/lxkqDNzS2xg39xjftGwXwyjQFU6qf/jhnCUCPxr7Wbdmg/2SkSduLgW9VHOvCVwDoESDsubYXiUxO6MYA0q2WHDaUZf5PxeDUac2Ma+4OYvF17o9tpvTWv+pc/UbA0ZqnDhGO6De8zJvNJOLNI= Received: by 10.141.88.3 with SMTP id q3mr5201630rvl.94.1208352109694; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.123.13 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:21:49 +0200 To: "Stanislav Malyshev" , "Andi Gutmans" Cc: "PHP Internals" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_5256_7861611.1208352109685" References: <47F463F0.4030407@zend.com> <4803D0A2.2030008@zend.com> <4803D7DF.8020308@zend.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] intl naming From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye") ------=_Part_5256_7861611.1208352109685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > > > to know what to think about my API changes proposal and the exception > > > usages as it is a relatively important request. Or why are you asking? > > > > > > > I already stated my opinion about exceptions - I consider using them > > inappropriate in the context of this extension. However, my question was not > > about redesigning the API, but specifically about names. > > I'm not sure how I should understand that. Does that mean that there > is no room to discuss or change anything in intl as long as you don't > agree? It may be asked in a rude way but I have hard time to follow > the logic behind your requests. > > > > > I really fear to suddenly see a 1.0.0-stable with none of our requests > > > inside. > > > > > > > That depends on the requests and timeframe for their execution. Since we > > have mostly done the work that was planned for 1.0, I want to close one > > question that may change API. Adding features and enhancements is good, but > > not right now. If you wish, you may document them as feature requests for > > intl package on pecl too. > > My point did not change. I do think that it is premature for > 1.0.0-stable. I understand that you like to be at this stage for the > end of this month (5.3) but I don't think we have to hurry up without > solving the obvious issues we have. The API is the biggest one. Let me know if I should simply consider than any change to the API will be rejected. That will spare me (and other too) some time as I will not try to provide patches or improvements if they will be rejected anyway. But no answer is not a no and feed the confusion. > > No trick, just checked out the code, put the libs in ../icu, run configure > > and nmake. > > Checked out? You mean with CVS/SVN? I thought you were using their releases. I will post my ICU questions to ICU support, faster :) Please find a patch as attachment, fixing some bad #ifdef. This test should be in the main intl header, imo. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org ------=_Part_5256_7861611.1208352109685 Content-Type: text/plain; name=msg_format.c.patch.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_ff3xmj3v0 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=msg_format.c.patch.txt SW5kZXg6IG1zZ2Zvcm1hdC9tc2dmb3JtYXRfZm9ybWF0LmMNCj09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0NClJDUyBmaWxl OiAvcmVwb3NpdG9yeS9wZWNsL2ludGwvbXNnZm9ybWF0L21zZ2Zvcm1hdF9mb3JtYXQuYyx2DQpy ZXRyaWV2aW5nIHJldmlzaW9uIDEuMS4yLjcNCmRpZmYgLXUgLXIxLjEuMi43IG1zZ2Zvcm1hdF9m b3JtYXQuYw0KLS0tIG1zZ2Zvcm1hdC9tc2dmb3JtYXRfZm9ybWF0LmMJNSBNYXIgMjAwOCAyMToy MjoxMiAtMDAwMAkxLjEuMi43DQorKysgbXNnZm9ybWF0L21zZ2Zvcm1hdF9mb3JtYXQuYwkxNiBB cHIgMjAwOCAxMTowMjoxOSAtMDAwMA0KQEAgLTI3LDggKzI3LDggQEANCiAjaW5jbHVkZSAibXNn Zm9ybWF0X2hlbHBlcnMuaCINCiAjaW5jbHVkZSAiaW50bF9jb252ZXJ0LmgiDQogDQotI2lmbmRl ZiBaX0FERFJFRl9QKHopDQotI2RlZmluZSBaX0FERFJFRl9QKHopICgoeiktPnJlZmNvdW50Kysp DQorI2lmbmRlZiBaX0FERFJFRl9QDQorIwlkZWZpbmUgWl9BRERSRUZfUCh6KSAoKHopLT5yZWZj b3VudCsrKQ0KICNlbmRpZg0K ------=_Part_5256_7861611.1208352109685--