Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:36812 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93145 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2008 06:25:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Apr 2008 06:25:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.124 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.124 c2bthomr06.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.124] ([213.123.20.124:8487] helo=c2bthomr06.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DD/93-63123-54B17F74 for ; Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:25:10 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr06.btconnect.com with ESMTP id ARF28643; Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:25:06 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <47F71B44.3000608@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:25:08 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr06.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A010207.47F71B42.004C,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=127.0.0.1, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.4.3/2008-02-01 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: What is the current state of PHP6? From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Apart from the minutes of a meeting back in November *2005* ( was it really that long ago ) there seems to be no further definitive documentation on the PHP6 roadmap. This is partially why the continual development of PATCHES for PHP5 relating to UNICODE is somewhat annoying. I KEEP asking what is holding up making a beta release of PHP6, and I see nothing in the 2005 meeting that is anything more than a restructure and recompile using unicode as the base. MOST of the other things are just removing things that are now normally switched off anyway. And I mean a BETA since the thing has been in alpha for 2 years! I will ask this question again as I cant find ANYTHING on the php.net site to answer it. *IS* PHP6 going to be unicode ONLY internally are is half of the problem here that THAT decision still has not been agreed? I came to PHP a some time before PHP5 was out of candidate stage, and decided that there was no point deploying PHP4 since PHP5 was going to be out soon, and that PHP4 would be phased out. I have not regretted that decision and have managed to navigate the BC hand grenades lobbed since. FINALLY PHP4 is being deprecated but still there is no sign of PHP6 over the horizon. So I am not surprised that PHP5 is now receiving the same treatment as PHP4 has had for years and having facilities that should be core to PHP6 patched back in. So apart from the 'PHP6 being under heavy development' statements all over the place where is the CURRENT status of PHP6 available to look at? There is little in the bug list that seems overly problematic, but until there is an indication that a release of PHP6 may be on the horizon there is no point carrying out any heavy testing with application. Since major parts could change before it is released? Some time ago - and I forget how long ago - I was running a copy of PHP6 but lack of any real progress has meant that I've probably NOT run it for over a year. If I set up a machine again is it worth the effort - when may there be something deployable? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://home.lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php