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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] intl naming
From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

Hi!

> THAT I agree with - BUT WHAT IS STOPPING PHP6 being the solution. I 
> can't see any reason that time is being wasted on yet another PHP5.X 
> when that same effort could be directed to getting at least a stable 
> beta of PHP6 out the door?

I'm sorry you don't see the reason, but we do. The reason being, as I 
said, that it is needed by people in 5.x timeframe, not 6.x timeframe.

> MessageFormatter simply duplicates and complicates a simple display of a 
> message with embedded variables. If I ask for to output a string with 

No it doesn't. It supports ICU functionality in with message formatting 
(BTW backed by a number of ICU tools).

> Collator is already required to process strtoupper and strtolower, so 
> why should we need to decide if we can use them or we need to create a 
> new object and get that to do the job.

For PHP 6 Collator will be integrated with the rest of core 
functionality. And BTW, you don't need collator for strtoupper, you need 
it for sort. Collation and case conversion/folding is not the same.

> PLEASE - what is stopping PHP6 becoming a platform that we can start 
> working with today?

There's a lot of work still for integrating intl extension with PHP 6 
(and PHP 5 too), please tell me when you are ready to start and I'll 
describe the tasks for you.
-- 
Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect
stas@zend.com   http://www.zend.com/
(408)253-8829   MSN: stas@zend.com