Newsgroups: php.internals,php.pecl.dev Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:36750 php.pecl.dev:5323 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19486 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2008 14:17:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Apr 2008 14:17:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.143 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.143 smtpout0143.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.143] ([64.97.136.143:11302] helo=n064.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 63/60-36649-60442F74 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:17:45 -0500 Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 476977050101A1B8; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:17:38 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,a1d19dd1f31fefc4,9ffb27c387ecf99b,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:945:973:980:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2198:2199:2200:2379:2393:2553:2559:2562:2693:2736:2741:2828:2829:2902:3027:3354:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:5007:6119:6261:7875:7903,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5, 0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none,TSO:0 X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (host86-130-56-54.range86-130.btcentralplus.com [86.130.56.54]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <016501c89403$42be0020$4001a8c0@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Pierre Joye" Cc: , "internals" References: <00a601c8931e$c24cbc90$4001a8c0@foxbox> <03a401c89349$00f43840$4001a8c0@foxbox> <00e101c893f7$06480ed0$4001a8c0@foxbox> <708425231.20080401150041@marcus-boerger.de> <47F23249.8060407@daylessday.org> <012301c893fb$41451560$4001a8c0@foxbox> <014201c893fd$d16ade70$4001a8c0@foxbox> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:18:28 +0100 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") Hi Pierre, > and about Attic, the idea behind a graveyard was about leaving the > code around for study purposes. Code in the attic can be read online but can't be checked out, so I take your point about 'study purposes'. I'd use siberia for things like axis2, where the project is live and hosted elsewhere but the original code is still in PECL. Or classkit, which was superceded by runkit but which still works. Marcus' demoext could go into siberia too - it's literally just a demo and may be useful to some, but it shouldn't really be part of a PECL checkout. >> I'd call the 'PECL versioning' one a done deal at this stage, pretty >> much - >> it just needs a write-up on pecl.php.net for newcomers to refer to, and >> a >> request for the final handful of extensions to comply. > > Filling a bug may be enough. Nah, I'll do the polite thing and send out emails today. We can file bugs when people don't comply _after_ the request (and after we have something with clear rules we can link to!). >> We probably need a whole new RFC for core module versioning. Want to >> kick it >> off? > > I would not like to have different docs explaining the same thing It > will be very confusing. We already covered almost every problem for > core or pecl extensions. I thought that at first too, but Christopher Jones faced me off-list with some scenarios I hadn't considered. It's more complex than we'd allowed because a single PECL extension can be symlinked to more than one PHP branch - we need to look into this more. > Let make it clean and readable and then see > how it can be improved. OK, but I need to spend some time on 'real work', so can I leave this with you for now? - Steph