Newsgroups: php.internals,php.pecl.dev Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:36749 php.pecl.dev:5322 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85232 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2008 13:49:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Apr 2008 13:49:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.184.227 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.184.227 wr-out-0506.google.com Received: from [64.233.184.227] ([64.233.184.227:13860] helo=wr-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FA/B8-36649-75D32F74 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:49:12 -0500 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so1373615wri.2 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:49:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1BpLakM9e3uOFsJpFyuBv/7WT1Ee2FvhLyzxMPUCpew=; b=kv9rrhBvhX1PVU84IxmUY7Lw6La5a4J3+6ho+thGHNvUdlNHQt/nlq5mHtX2JtvYR/XGvV+0Dn5ky6PXA7PIqhZ5IMLtoNa8AD563qlD3YBpZrxJTUrD/dViuiMrB2A8g1fLPgYrrwYgJczMTllGIIGun0u8qilZdwxHFQveAkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rXsdVxydqnFGP3PgdCYrNjpwhIDyYaIjs+yd6v+mMuegY9bx1/xnjIdrbG6HjKGWfhW3rhLnOllUI+X+EFZ1IAtRL+BSvT51+DWK3kJ5ffQKNI28LndgMzi9fP9QenIqaK8so3Zx7jDID/yaH5oHQl0Fcnez1Eg/pgEzjXLBLZE= Received: by 10.141.63.20 with SMTP id q20mr4268306rvk.291.1207057748772; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.123.13 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 06:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:49:08 +0200 To: "Steph Fox" Cc: pecl-dev@lists.php.net, internals In-Reply-To: <014201c893fd$d16ade70$4001a8c0@foxbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <00a601c8931e$c24cbc90$4001a8c0@foxbox> <03a401c89349$00f43840$4001a8c0@foxbox> <00e101c893f7$06480ed0$4001a8c0@foxbox> <708425231.20080401150041@marcus-boerger.de> <47F23249.8060407@daylessday.org> <012301c893fb$41451560$4001a8c0@foxbox> <014201c893fd$d16ade70$4001a8c0@foxbox> Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye") On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Steph Fox wrote: > > Siberia was meant for dead module with no potential to come back to > > live. > > Not in my eyes. There's only a problem with CVS Attic if you want to bring > something back to life, so if there's no potential for that - why not use > it? Some archive: http://news.php.net/php.pecl.dev/5283 (and the other posts around it). and about Attic, the idea behind a graveyard was about leaving the code around for study purposes. > > I can't see how these two can live again as they are under GPL, > > unless the original authors agree to relicense them. > > Not happening. a) both extensions wrap/interface GPL'd libraries and b) the > muscat library no longer exists. So they are dead cows. > > That reminds me that I have to update the RFC according to our discussions > > :P > > I'd call the 'PECL versioning' one a done deal at this stage, pretty much - > it just needs a write-up on pecl.php.net for newcomers to refer to, and a > request for the final handful of extensions to comply. Filling a bug may be enough. > We probably need a whole new RFC for core module versioning. Want to kick it > off? I would not like to have different docs explaining the same thing It will be very confusing. We already covered almost every problem for core or pecl extensions. Let make it clean and readable and then see how it can be improved. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org