Newsgroups: php.internals,php.pecl.dev Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:36748 php.pecl.dev:5321 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83028 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2008 13:38:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Apr 2008 13:38:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.140 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.140 smtpout0140.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.140] ([64.97.136.140:16842] helo=n082.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8E/28-36649-4EA32F74 for ; Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:38:46 -0500 Received: from sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 4769FAD400FAC189; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:38:41 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,bd6f154ced022b23,9ffb27c387ecf99b,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:945:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2198:2199:2377:2379:2393:2559:2562:2736:2828:2829:2895:3027:3353:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3872:3873:3874:4250:4421:5007:6119:6261:7875:7903,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache: 0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none,TSO:0 X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (host86-130-56-54.range86-130.btcentralplus.com [86.130.56.54]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out05.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <014201c893fd$d16ade70$4001a8c0@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Pierre Joye" Cc: , "internals" References: <00a601c8931e$c24cbc90$4001a8c0@foxbox> <94211010.20080331171052@marcus-boerger.de> <03a401c89349$00f43840$4001a8c0@foxbox> <00e101c893f7$06480ed0$4001a8c0@foxbox> <708425231.20080401150041@marcus-boerger.de> <47F23249.8060407@daylessday.org> <012301c893fb$41451560$4001a8c0@foxbox> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:39:31 +0100 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: [PHP-DEV] The Untouchables From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") > Siberia was meant for dead module with no potential to come back to > live. Not in my eyes. There's only a problem with CVS Attic if you want to bring something back to life, so if there's no potential for that - why not use it? > I can't see how these two can live again as they are under GPL, > unless the original authors agree to relicense them. Not happening. a) both extensions wrap/interface GPL'd libraries and b) the muscat library no longer exists. > The unmaintained packages (which can be maintained again, aka back to > live) has be marked as such. Yes, we need to mark them ORPHANED. But that's a whole different story, because we need to have some criteria about when a module becomes orphaned - and we don't have that in place yet. > That reminds me that I have to update the RFC according to our discussions > :P I'd call the 'PECL versioning' one a done deal at this stage, pretty much - it just needs a write-up on pecl.php.net for newcomers to refer to, and a request for the final handful of extensions to comply. We probably need a whole new RFC for core module versioning. Want to kick it off? - Steph