Newsgroups: php.internals,php.qa Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:36722 php.qa:64136 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22081 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2008 15:44:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Mar 2008 15:44:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.189 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.189 rv-out-0910.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.189] ([209.85.198.189:43038] helo=rv-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C0/E7-05022-0F601F74 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:44:49 -0500 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so1188528rvb.23 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:44:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=yGKW+HSobDuUWZX10eH9m5bb58UDLzLUmjmKXBOg/2Q=; b=nft0jt/ibc8DCPVpOiJCvQMtJXwnSH7VcCbjiAZexeLMEnqci2UZDb74sK2ePHjAY0dmoI7EIfj++PvEmgDJg0nRDiNkwPMxD0wVJPpgKTlGaoupYvrtCKObnOccqE5z7EwOpyI63Ns3mZEo9YWiGDRAGg+4Y6fN5am0FdvFf9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fZBJQ9W5Ixv547Z/VM1upnDMKjJ1HucrnBdnTZo/juRIxvfyhEtev+TWVARGqRGu5rzq2QEG+Bdw2EB+d2duFoGUVLC4HtGLPazL/nTWs0JBix8jwmRjfz6eiJ8R0ZH7pydpZDIQRWJGQ0LGrN4jGNSOdtFwEC1VdIOb2glPwao= Received: by 10.141.164.13 with SMTP id r13mr3492595rvo.65.1206978286316; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.123.13 with HTTP; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:44:46 +0200 To: "Marcus Boerger" Cc: "Derick Rethans" , "Marco Kaiser" , "PHP Developers Mailing List" , php-qa@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <826883759.20080331171437@marcus-boerger.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1124764115.20080327105033@marcus-boerger.de> <47eb9d50.02e2660a.759d.2e19@mx.google.com> <826883759.20080331171437@marcus-boerger.de> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-QA] BC break with php 5.2.6 From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye") On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Marcus Boerger wrote: > Hello Derick, > > it is a BUG FIX. Not fixing it means more people will turn it into a > feature and we will never be able to remove it. Becuase next time you > will say we cannot remove it in a minor version as by then you accidentally > rely on it yourself. > > We made a mistake! Lets stand up and admit we did. Probably I was involved > in making that mistake, so sorry. Done. We all understand that bugs (or design mistakes) have to be fixed at some point. However, I'm not sure such fixes require yet again another fatal error addition, especially not between two bug fixes only releases. I may live (hardly) with a fatal error between 5.x and 5.x+1, on a case by case basis. And it is perfectly fine to do it in 6.x. I know we have been said that for months now but to explain our position once again can't hurt. Cheers and keep the good work, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org