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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:12:47 +0100
To: "Rasmus Lerdorf" <rasmus@lerdorf.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] CMake SoC Proposal
From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye")

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:45 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote:
> Gwynne Raskind wrote:
>  > My two US cents :).
>  >
>  > On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Jani Taskinen wrote:
>  >>> Here is a quick run down of some of the features of CMake and tools
>  >>> associated with it:
>  >>> =95 A single configure script that would be used regardless of the O=
S
>  >>> =95 A much simpler scripting language
>  >> m4 is simple. :-p
>  >
>  > Since when?
>
>  m4 is actually one of the simplest languages around.  There really isn't
>  much to it.  The pain point of autoconf/automake/libtool isn't m4, it is
>  the complicated and often obtuse relationship between those 3 tools.
>
>  I don't mind exploring cmake, but it is a massive undertaking to create
>  something that can build PHP on every UNIX and pseudo-UNIX platform out
>  there.  We should figure out what the main goal here is.  If it is
>  simply getting "native" build files so people can use their
>  pointy-clickety interfaces to build PHP, then it is probably way easier
>  to create .in files to generate those basic build templates from our
>  current system than it is to rewrite the whole thing.

To have a pointy-clickety (I like this word :) interface is
definitively not a goal. It is a side effect of using CMake as CMake
has a GUI available on unix and windows. The main goal is actually to
have one single tool for all platforms and to lower the barriers of
the build scripts.

Cheers,
--=20
Pierre
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