Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:36322 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6255 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2008 13:00:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Mar 2008 13:00:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lars@strojny.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lars@strojny.net; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain strojny.net designates 85.10.204.248 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lars@strojny.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.10.204.248 milch.schokokeks.org Received: from [85.10.204.248] ([85.10.204.248:59570] helo=milch.schokokeks.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 16/32-28271-FE205E74 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:00:32 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.9] (xdsl-87-79-224-33.netcologne.de [::ffff:87.79.224.33]) (AUTH: PLAIN lars@schokokeks.org, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,CAMELLIA256-SHA) by milch.schokokeks.org with esmtp; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:00:27 +0100 id 000000000002000A.0000000047E502EB.000043FD To: Pierre Joye Cc: Ralph Schindler , Stanislav Malyshev , Hannes Magnusson , Marcus Boerger , PHP Internals In-Reply-To: References: <47E3F714.60302@zend.com> <47E40848.1060103@zend.com> <7f3ed2c30803211412v299a0c36m86cabb27b26c232@mail.gmail.com> <47E42657.7010408@zend.com> <7f3ed2c30803211420s6cdd06bcy331880346fa68cb@mail.gmail.com> <47E4281C.80706@zend.com> <47E44A1A.2020703@smashlabs.com> <1206187799.10080.26.camel@localhost> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:00:27 +0100 Message-ID: <1206190827.10080.44.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=_milch.schokokeks.org-17405-1206190828-0001-2" X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag From: lars@strojny.net (Lars Strojny) --=_milch.schokokeks.org-17405-1206190828-0001-2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Pierre, Am Samstag, den 22.03.2008, 13:17 +0100 schrieb Pierre Joye: [...] > Read: Code validation (like in pre commit rules), is one common usage. Where? I've just never seen any project that does XML validation on XML templates as a pre-commit rule. > Think about xml being XML data or HTML. Nothing prevents one to write > valid (x)html in a valid xml format. Again: there is no point in validating at a pre-interpreted XML files (if they contain interpretable code). > And again this exact example was a proof to a *wrong* claim, it has to > be extended to be applicable to a real life context.=20 Making the example longer (aka "applicable to a real life context"?) would not change the common characteristics. My claim is, that a pre-interpreted XML file with PHP instructions can't be reliably validated anyway, so their is no reason bothering with it.=20 > This small but obvious example is not a real life context but only > (and only!) the proof that Stan's claim was wrong, period. I'm not sure to which claim you are referring, but I'm not Stas advocate so this might be true :) cu, Lars --=_milch.schokokeks.org-17405-1206190828-0001-2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJH5QLqAAoJECQPF+sCY6wH13MP/0ecHtEDN1oH8OkntrD3tNzh 4by9NJJiM0voh6vHsylpd/1ASVrYogSVpbHAPLzpyvVVjGFht8VsT7WCtxvoEyWI ExQ8oBg4cXYGN2CxMKAlBRR1KRxCijpD+V0hrARhE41+CwypXXbazuTsrsXdRpXf JYZjxvzKWAiAW5Rk9N96d73zNRx9MHyE/E0reh+c2D60oBPSB4QGA/v7B/JZydB6 XCFKyZb2vBz5K2Ff5gzKKTAM71ecjYLFGcrEEg2IOdt+nn4UTtzoAeuA3YjxK1Pj TUZboP1lPbqMartvoeCaGZP74N2zE2gmahdXqD8V6UavehmP8wvYDCoijN0vwrVT I6jxUCH/A9i0D+K6bmK5OTFfIwjFke/94VIorpOEFp+AqBRoPu0hIl08AiDqFbZg CIyzzYLqM6RhCk/f3Gsgw4Tb76SByB9VcjSpc3q1DmiNtBl0NVnFdBQhWi2pdWpi E8v7qA8IvtgkftpQaWPp0IBTb/DDujZXQmnttcGPeCTFguxmNRgOFPEdsgqkH7KQ vwlBrSGx4ShGh6IgSdWGtBcWUnVBN9ERvE3z9eATT/vfnnrE1DPK92+z7URV08lC mc8aDGSAztKQovdkE/xJ1+akX/KS7njjA6d69hjF7ZjrDN2ZlvLRSbDyye2sV0Vf IUoq6tgAOL0s2OwwGmXU =Ojly -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_milch.schokokeks.org-17405-1206190828-0001-2--