Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:36319 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 99015 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2008 12:17:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Mar 2008 12:17:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.186 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.186 rv-out-0910.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.186] ([209.85.198.186:24609] helo=rv-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B3/D0-28271-8E8F4E74 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:17:45 -0500 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so1102494rvb.23 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:17:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=LBuJiDXpSN8i7K3U7uVVm9n1wrfqFRsDnPMYlRe9c7Y=; b=m4ktfBnMZgDpLBfwW1msZruSVWpIc83Awzh1WIn99KhpodalGwKxzI8bqWXMCtVo3e8FgvkU/jWQarT+JxmCNiZHDs59kh0z9eQP+fwHQZzVhBGqgB4aOYBQVT0uHsRcjOc63RJqWUwr2Peat7Qhl7cDU4AtCUiF/q0JyWFbU9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jjl/NB6QbSfDcS3V/LFXNZPpwWwsaRTHhcMMIMGazfcak8cvq5scT0fpFgJDcU93/HLxPICuE70Rp0lOTJF7An3q61CHTA9D5npt+8ECG4jwAnqUMQP8jUsLbwupq/l5Mg8+J6T+WYC8UMLXVz4g1f9hvzqNTcI29zZ0YkvC4fg= Received: by 10.140.174.11 with SMTP id w11mr1712269rve.17.1206188262289; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.123.13 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:17:42 +0100 To: "Lars Strojny" Cc: "Ralph Schindler" , "Stanislav Malyshev" , "Hannes Magnusson" , "Marcus Boerger" , "PHP Internals" In-Reply-To: <1206187799.10080.26.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47E3F714.60302@zend.com> <47E40848.1060103@zend.com> <7f3ed2c30803211412v299a0c36m86cabb27b26c232@mail.gmail.com> <47E42657.7010408@zend.com> <7f3ed2c30803211420s6cdd06bcy331880346fa68cb@mail.gmail.com> <47E4281C.80706@zend.com> <47E44A1A.2020703@smashlabs.com> <1206187799.10080.26.camel@localhost> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye") Hi, On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Lars Strojny wrote: > Hi Ralph, Pierre, everybody, > > Am Samstag, den 22.03.2008, 01:23 +0100 schrieb Pierre Joye: > > > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Ralph Schindler wrote: > > > > > > > Take this file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and run it through xmllint. > > That's exactly the point, thanks Ralph. It makes absolutely no sense > validating XML documents containing PHP instructions *before* the > instructions have been processed Read: Code validation (like in pre commit rules), is one common usage. Think about xml being XML data or HTML. Nothing prevents one to write valid (x)html in a valid xml format. And again this exact example was a proof to a *wrong* claim, it has to be extended to be applicable to a real life context. This small but obvious example is not a real life context but only (and only!) the proof that Stan's claim was wrong, period. Cheers, -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org