Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:36282 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59525 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2008 20:37:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2008 20:37:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:49008] helo=mx1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 40/0C-26785-5AC14E74 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:37:57 -0500 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by mx1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:38:21 +0200 Received: from [192.168.16.115] ([192.168.16.115]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:38:18 -0700 Message-ID: <47E41C9F.4040105@zend.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:37:51 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger CC: Pierre Joye , jani.taskinen@iki.fi, PHP Internals References: <47E3F714.60302@zend.com> <883216194.20080321193140@marcus-boerger.de> <47E40848.1060103@zend.com> <47E40C3F.8040601@sci.fi> <47E40E6E.5030103@zend.com> <47E410C6.80605@sci.fi> <47E4146A.8010409@zend.com> <47E41765.4080007@zend.com> <111239762.20080321212310@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <111239762.20080321212310@marcus-boerger.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2008 20:38:18.0584 (UTC) FILETIME=[7EEAF580:01C88B93] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > lemme think, PHP is used to generate HTML and XHTML. And often people Neither of which require have the headers outside of the PHP tags. And some people like to use tools. > But maybe I am wrong. Either way. It appears that nearly every single > person replying is against this. So can we please stop arguing? I don't You mean like 3 people that can't even explain why they hate short tags, but just like me to shut up because their opinion can't be wrong? Yeah, right. > think there are more arguemnts coming. And it doesn't look like you are > convincing anyone here. Maybe because these "someone" just can't be convinced by rational argument. This is really sad that people are willing to sacrifice interests of the users and the language development for... well, I don't even know for what. For not admitting they were wrong for once? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com