Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:36265 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32376 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2008 19:44:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2008 19:44:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:43423] helo=mx1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 54/16-26785-A0014E74 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:44:10 -0500 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by mx1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:44:34 +0200 Received: from [192.168.16.115] ([192.168.16.115]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:44:31 -0700 Message-ID: <47E41004.2090802@zend.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:44:04 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger CC: 'PHP Internals' References: <47E3F714.60302@zend.com> <883216194.20080321193140@marcus-boerger.de> <47E40848.1060103@zend.com> <6310697847.20080321203519@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <6310697847.20080321203519@marcus-boerger.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2008 19:44:31.0256 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB47C980:01C88B8B] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] short_open_tag From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > But the non programmers don't understand either. And instea They do. "Non programmer" != "idiot". > of promoting to XML. See my previous mail on that. > That is more than 5 years ago though. OK, so? > But I do not have to use something is no reason to add a function. I never brought it as a reason to add. The reason is the use case we already discussed. > But I don't want to add more stuff to make sure my stuff works. I want it > infact easier with less configurations. In real use cases, you won't need any configurations at all. In imaginary use case where you are beset by hostile includes that are determined to ruin your environment and incompetent library writers that can't write 3 lines of code, but you must use their libraries, and on top of that you absolutely must to include XML files into the same application - in this imaginary case you still have very easy solution that allows you to go back to pre-patch state. I wish all patches could be reverted as easily when needed. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com