Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35966 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2069 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2008 04:48:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Mar 2008 04:48:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 168.215.118.250 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 168.215.118.250 Mail.Conquestis.com Windows 98 (no sack) Received: from [168.215.118.250] ([168.215.118.250:52068] helo=mail.ConquestIS.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F5/ED-27925-5362EC74 for ; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:48:55 -0500 Received: from [10.59.1.60] ([12.13.142.4]) by mail.ConquestIS.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:02:58 -0500 Message-ID: <47CE2624.3080401@lerdorf.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:48:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Olson CC: Daniel Brown , internals Mailing List References: <57E15082-3C72-4EE8-A987-305E362F3F1F@roshambo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2008 05:02:59.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E79EA60:01C87E7E] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: How PHP utilizes the Google SoC From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) Philip Olson wrote: > > On Mar 4, 2008, at 7:07 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Philip Olson >> wrote: >>> >>> The Google Summer of Code sponsors students to work on Open Source >>> projects over each summer. This RFC introduces guidelines and goals >>> involving how we handle the SoC process. >> [snip="important info"] >> >> Philip (or anyone else who can answer); >> >> According to the information I've read (and I'll admit, I've >> *heard* of the GSoC, but am by no means familiar with it), the >> organization receives a small stipend as the representative group. My >> question is: how is this usually spent? >> >> The reason I ask is because I'd be very interested in mentoring a >> student on a project if we can use this money to help move the RFC >> Wiki (or similar) idea forward. Besides, I'd be killing two birds >> with one stone.... as it was, I was trying to figure out how I'd >> afford the box and bandwidth as it is, because the Wiki idea - as I >> think others may agree - is an excellent step toward the future of the >> development of PHP. So it's not an unselfish move on my part. > > > Hello Daniel, > > Lack of funding is rarely a cause for such issues. Where there is a > will, there is a free way. Many entities exist out there that are > willing to donate boxes and bandwidth but people just need to find them. > > The wiki is moving forward after delays for many reasons including > unknowns about if PHP wants a wiki (some people hate them), our > chaotic nature, and lack of time. Lukas is now working on the wiki > and it already has a domain (wiki.php.net) and CVS module > (php-wiki-web) and once it goes online I have a feeling other new > tools will start evolving. Just a guess. These were created yesterday. > > As for where the mentor SoC money goes, I think it finds its way > towards random PHP user groups. The money goes directly to the students. PHP as a project does not take any money. Technically we could, but we haven chosen in the past not to. -Rasmus