Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35924 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1818 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2008 19:58:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Mar 2008 19:58:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.189 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.189 rv-out-0910.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.189] ([209.85.198.189:15252] helo=rv-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FE/01-29055-C785CC74 for ; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:58:53 -0500 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so181271rvb.23 for ; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:58:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FKBNNMvlOqxaN9D6wcYWB+GZUUSR0SlxxFJ1uAO4y0c=; b=OrZjx1fyztA6NBqt76puZx59HLlbW1c5R3zWmJ2KVoogs+iLP/vDnXm11FZbT4FGxi0Y0/OWbZAXE9s8sWz4G6fGlictXvh8w00yuRfY3sen3pFBZ74UpaT68O/OK6bfC7pAbLfNIb0ZlERx4VcjOuCYq87EiNH3zXidoKVIZtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kV8kZ2mzbh3HCGwfWKO3QUo17qZa/6+JTtpQS4j/Aj3VLyXKhAMEU6y87wad4sXth34S6YLyw59uSQo5kXuUi7c8tldyTnjYVB+b6mW53imZkWBzwu4Pf9Z6rS0RNRtxm/oEh1V0wpeMo9/VC3KXdrWdqghofbysuanQ7/opDQ0= Received: by 10.140.165.21 with SMTP id n21mr356036rve.257.1204574330044; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.116.12 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:58:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:58:50 +0100 To: "Stanislav Malyshev" Cc: "Marcus Boerger" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <47CC5616.8040506@zend.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1706278209.20080302232134@marcus-boerger.de> <47CB2E9D.6010102@zend.com> <1642796941.20080303002651@marcus-boerger.de> <47CB8107.1090802@zend.com> <1207450994.20080303113313@marcus-boerger.de> <47CC4A9D.1080705@zend.com> <47CC5616.8040506@zend.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Replace the flex-based scanner with an re2c [1] based lexer From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye") On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > > > It is clearer but it is not a problem. New features may introduce new > > dependencies. Having a dependency on libicu while we introduce intl > > and other features related to unicode or i18n. I would agree if we > > were talking about 5.2.x. > > pecl/intl is an extension, there's no surprise that you need external > library when you enable extension. However, adding dependency in core > that you can not rid of has a lot of consequences (think distributions, > builds on non-Linux systems, etc., etc.). intl (and related changes) is almost the only why one will upgrade to 5.3.x. There is no core (as in zend engine) for 95% of our users. There is a PHP release with default features which can be relied on. That's my feeling and experiences on this topic. That being said, icu is so common these days, I really don't see a problem to have it as dep. If we were asking for some esoteric library, I would worry more, obviously :) -- Pierre http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org