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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:07:49 +0100
To: "Marcus Boerger" <helly@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 5.2.5 and static calls
From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye")

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote:
> Hello Pierre,
>
>  Saturday, March 1, 2008, 8:53:26 PM, you wrote:
>
>  and yeas after several years of trying to communicate and never gotten
>  anything back? I have told PREAR development a million times to fix code.

I don't know PREAR and don't care about PEAR. This issues does not
create troubles only for PEAR but to many applications out there, open
sources or not. Users love to update to the next point release (often
for security reason or crashes) and likes when their applications
continue to work just like before.

>  Now not even PEAR code is wrong but it is copied into endless amounts of
>  code. So it seems ignorance is bliss is what our userbase is doing. So I
>  need to do the same, no? On the other hand Rasmus and I spent a lot time
>  getting this right without affecting users to much and we infact did
>  encounter things that lead to bigger issues and I am not introducing tons
>  of workarounds.

Again, focusing on PEAR being <put everything bad you think about it
here> does not matter. And again, I'm not arguing about the needs of
fixing bugs but about pointless fatal errors introductions (or
anything else higher than a notice) in point releases. I think it is
understandable.

Anyway, you know my opinion as we discussed this problem hundred of
times already.


Cheers,
-- 
Pierre
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