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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:52:16 -0800
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Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] How to build a real Trait thing without exclusion and renaming
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To: "Marcus Boerger" <helly@php.net>
Cc: "Stas Malyshev" <stas@zend.com>,
	<php@stefan-marr.de>,
	"internals Mailing List" <internals@lists.php.net>
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] How to build a real Trait thing without exclusion and renaming
From: andi@zend.com ("Andi Gutmans")

That's fine. I'm not attached to any name just the concept :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:helly@php.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:42 AM
> To: Andi Gutmans
> Cc: Stas Malyshev; php@stefan-marr.de; internals Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] How to build a real Trait thing without
> exclusion and renaming
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> Hello Andi,
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>   I agree with Stas about 'local' and actually his reasoning is why I
> simply suggested 'private'. That also has the advantage that people
> already
> know what it does.
>=20
> marcus
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> Thursday, February 28, 2008, 5:14:17 AM, you wrote:
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Stanislav Malyshev [mailto:stas@zend.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:07 PM
> >> To: Andi Gutmans
> >> Cc: php@stefan-marr.de; internals Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] How to build a real Trait thing without
> >> exclusion and renaming
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> > trait MyDebug {
> >> >     local $counter =3D 1;
> >>
> >> IIRC we don't have keyword "local". Why not "private" or "static"?
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> > I wouldn't get too caught up on the naming at this point but rather
> the
> > functionality.
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> >> > class MyClock {
> >> >     use MyDebug *;
> >> >     use MyTicks {
> >> >             timeInTicks =3D inTicks;
> >>
> >> This looks like code which does assignment. How I am supposed to
> >> understand from it that a new method for MyClock API is born?
> >>
> >> In any case, why you need timeInTicks at all? If you need it
public,
> >> why
> >> not write an accessor? It'd be better OO anyway, since MyClock's
> >> clients
> >> can't know about MyTicks's details or even its existence.
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> > This is just an example of being able to alias a method from a
trait.
> > Assuming two traits would use the same name this would give you the
> > ability to include it under a different name.
> > The point is we can alias but we can not remove.
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> > Andi
>=20
>=20
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> Best regards,
>  Marcus