Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35834 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88164 invoked by uid 1010); 28 Feb 2008 01:12:16 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 88149 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2008 01:12:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Feb 2008 01:12:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=larry@garfieldtech.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=larry@garfieldtech.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain garfieldtech.com from 76.96.30.40 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: larry@garfieldtech.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 76.96.30.40 qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net Received: from [76.96.30.40] ([76.96.30.40:57181] helo=QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4E/4E-14752-F6A06C74 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:12:15 -0500 Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ud8p1Y0060x6nqcA40q100; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:11:38 +0000 Received: from earth.ufp ([24.13.255.226]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id upCB1Y00A4trKQ88Y00000; Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:12:12 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Dob7V5q3ErQA:10 a=cYHcm5O_xHFaK_BbodQA:9 a=VP8lnrdKIMoB8EgWKhAA:7 a=7cMSW1A1CqdhAYW1pVkexvyS-i8A:4 a=FHBbIDN7CdwA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by earth.ufp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622A4D842E for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:12:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from earth.ufp ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (earth.hsd1.il.comcast.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wt4kz6bFhaft for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:12:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from vulcan (unknown [192.168.42.1]) by earth.ufp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4C8D83F3 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:12:00 -0600 (CST) To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:11:58 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <37388396.20080201212653@marcus-boerger.de> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE0142E429@us-ex1.zend.net> <456A5146F9319946A179B523B9FC91D60D9DEAE568@NA-EXMSG-C114.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> In-Reply-To: <456A5146F9319946A179B523B9FC91D60D9DEAE568@NA-EXMSG-C114.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <200802271911.58276.larry@garfieldtech.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2 From: larry@garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) On Wednesday 27 February 2008, David Sceppa wrote: > The approach that's been described in proposals (vendor-built drivers can > be covered via CLAs while the core components remain CLA-free) is something > I believe to be in the best interests of both driver writers and the > developers who use PDO. We would prefer to have the spec and the core > covered by CLA, so that we can make more direct contributions, yet we > understand that the community wishes to keep the spec and the core > CLA-free. I am curious. If PDO core itself did not have a CLA, what "direct contributions" would you (Microsoft, not you personally) not be able/willing to make that you would be able/willing to make if it were? And is it able or willing? I think that's the question many people still don't have a clear answer to (from any DB vendor, at least that I've seen). -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson