Newsgroups: php.internals,php.pdo Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35832 php.pdo:152 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77242 invoked by uid 1010); 27 Feb 2008 20:27:40 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77227 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2008 20:27:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Feb 2008 20:27:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=David.Sceppa@microsoft.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=David.Sceppa@microsoft.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain microsoft.com designates 131.107.115.214 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: David.Sceppa@microsoft.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 131.107.115.214 smtp.microsoft.com Received: from [131.107.115.214] ([131.107.115.214:15069] helo=smtp.microsoft.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 21/A2-14752-5B7C5C74 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:27:35 -0500 Received: from TK5-EXHUB-C101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.18.48) by TK5-EXGWY-E803.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.169) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.240.5; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:27:30 -0800 Received: from NA-EXMSG-C114.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.62.169]) by TK5-EXHUB-C101.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.18.48]) with mapi; Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:27:16 -0800 To: "pdo@lists.php.net" , PHP Internals CC: Andi Gutmans , Lukas Kahwe Smith , Christopher Jones Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:27:16 -0800 Thread-Topic: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2 Thread-Index: AchvVyXMqUwnqG85Qb64um6gsQ+Q+QACQ8TwAoeZepA= Message-ID: <456A5146F9319946A179B523B9FC91D60D9DEAE568@NA-EXMSG-C114.redmond.corp.microsoft.com> References: <37388396.20080201212653@marcus-boerger.de> <47B39DF1.2000607@oracle.com> <47B3A7B6.9020400@oracle.com> <00a901c86eb6$54321250$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <79825459-12D4-477D-A252-A23F77128B03@pooteeweet.org> <47B4ADCE.5090907@oracle.com> <47B4BB79.6090101@oracle.com> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE0142E429@us-ex1.zend.net> In-Reply-To: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE0142E429@us-ex1.zend.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDO] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2 From: David.Sceppa@microsoft.com (David Sceppa) Greetings, PDO community! My name is David Sceppa and I am a program manag= er working at Microsoft on improving SQL Server for PHP data hosting. Let me first just say that Microsoft is very interested in participating in= the PDO 2 effort and I plan to actively engage in the discussions of the s= pec and the core via the mailing list. As a relative newcomer to this spac= e, Microsoft is highly incented to see a single solution that serves the ne= eds of this community. This is both from the standpoint of technical inves= tment (i.e. we would like to focus our resources on delivering one rock sol= id answer rather than many across the space), and for customer clarity as h= aving too many choices often winds up being confusing. We believe that PDO= 2 is that solution going forward in the PHP space, and we are therefore co= mmitted to seeing it through to fruition. The approach that's been described in proposals (vendor-built drivers can b= e covered via CLAs while the core components remain CLA-free) is something = I believe to be in the best interests of both driver writers and the develo= pers who use PDO. We would prefer to have the spec and the core covered by= CLA, so that we can make more direct contributions, yet we understand that= the community wishes to keep the spec and the core CLA-free. Microsoft has a great deal of experience and lessons learned (both positive= and negative) through the evolution of ODBC and other data access technolo= gies that give us a unique perspective and we look forward to contributing = to the PDO 2 effort. I look forward to diving into more technical discussi= ons on the mailing list on issues such as whether or not there should be a = set of core PDO libraries, the PDO metadata vocabulary, driver extensibilit= y, etc. David Sceppa Program Manager, SQL Server Driver for PHP Microsoft