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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:52:36 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Traits for PHP
From: lars@strojny.net (Lars Strojny)

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Hi Lukas,

Am Mittwoch, den 20.02.2008, 09:44 +0100 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith:
[...]
> Maybe its best to first leave out interfaces/abstract etc. Start =20
> simple, see how things get used, get more comfortable with the feature =20
> and then see about potentially expanding it.

I totally agree also I would like to have abstract methods in traits
(and don't beat me, I would like interface now too, for conceptual
integrity but the implemented interfaces should not derived by the using
classes). But: let us try to include a simple version of traits, without
abstract methods and trait interfaces in 5.3, get a huge amount of
feedback from the community and than think about implementing the more
complex stuff. I would like to see the following featureset:
      * Method renaming (method =3D> newMethod)
      * Method hiding (method =3D> null, method =3D> false, both might work=
)
      * No interfaces
      * No abstract methods
      * No visibility modifications

The last three point could be done for 5.4.

cu, Lars

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