Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35604 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53189 invoked by uid 1010); 19 Feb 2008 19:10:10 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53174 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2008 19:10:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Feb 2008 19:10:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 85.10.196.195 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.10.196.195 serveforce1.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [85.10.196.195] ([85.10.196.195:50796] helo=serveforce1.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 25/FC-55225-1992BB74 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:10:09 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-57-23-243.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.23.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by serveforce1.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C801224A76; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:10:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <744ABBE0-17C0-4AB7-8BB1-E5CFC0573A7F@pooteeweet.org> To: Stefan Marr , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:09:17 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.135, required 6, AWL 0.04, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-backendmedia-com-MailScanner-From: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Role model RFC From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Hi, I really like what Stefan did here with his traits RFC. Very solid work, even if there are still some people not convinced if they want this feature in, I have seen little complaints about the way this proposal was made. Quite the contrary actually. I would like this kind of detailed thought to become more the norm. Even if at the very beginning of an idea this quality may not be immediately attainable, it should be the goal. So for every idea we should have at least someone who tries to bring the proposal to this kind of level as the discussions progress. For this proposal I would hope that it would be put on some host we can trust to not disappear and be updated with the feedback. I am still dreaming of a php.net wiki for this kind of stuff. If interested I do of course offer wiki.pooteeweet.org to host these RFC's for the time being. Using php.net/reST has the draw back of requiring cvs.php.net karma for maintenance, which would be problematic for new comers, unless we can do karma on a per file level for this? regards, Lukas