Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35499 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26302 invoked by uid 1010); 14 Feb 2008 22:07:05 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26281 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2008 22:07:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Feb 2008 22:07:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com from 141.146.126.228 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 141.146.126.228 agminet01.oracle.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [141.146.126.228] ([141.146.126.228:48468] helo=agminet01.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DF/5E-21909-68BB4B74 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:07:03 -0500 Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m1EM6uwO003803; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:06:56 -0600 Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m1ELgZn9012163; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:06:55 -0700 Received: from dhcp-5op3-5op4-west-130-35-70-121.usdhcp.oraclecorp.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 7551897981203026810; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:06:50 -0800 Message-ID: <47B4BB79.6090101@oracle.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:06:49 -0800 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye CC: pdo@lists.php.net, PHP Internals References: <37388396.20080201212653@marcus-boerger.de> <47B39DF1.2000607@oracle.com> <47B3A7B6.9020400@oracle.com> <00a901c86eb6$54321250$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <79825459-12D4-477D-A252-A23F77128B03@pooteeweet.org> <47B4ADCE.5090907@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE Subject: Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PDO] Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] An Idea for PDO 2 From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) Pierre Joye wrote: > As we all agree that poor drivers are not welcome (and great drivers > are...), the problem here is not about improving PHP database support > (call it PDOv2 or DBDOv3) but to introduce CLA'ed areas in PHP, php > core or PECL. It would be nice to dissociate the two and to begin a > real dialog between all parties (see my list of questions). > > About the list having been already gaven, sorry but I can't remember > any list or any post about this topic not coming from existing > contributors. There's a list of the organizations who have currently expressed interest in http://www.php.net/~wez/pdo/pdo-faq.txt > Conferences and management meetings are great place to create > personal contacts and improve one thing or another, they are not the > place to decide such things for the whole community. Nothing was decided other than the proposal that was presented for the community to evaluate. I think most multi-person plans that impact an existing OSS project have had some genesis in private discussions before being broadcast. For PDO V2, this discussion was just really slow and intermittent. Chris -- Christopher Jones, Oracle Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630 Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Free PHP Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad