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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [patch] expose PHP version details as constants
From: jochem@iamjochem.com (Jochem Maas)

Pierre Joye schreef:
> Hi Jochen,
> 
> On Feb 12, 2008 12:22 PM, Jochem Maas <jochem@iamjochem.com> wrote:
>> Sebastian Bergmann schreef:
>>> Jochem Maas schrieb:
>>>>>> Output:
>>>>>> C:\
>>>>>> Is this intended?
>>>>> Yes, or what would you expect?
>>>> possibly 'C:' ?
>>>  Is "C:" not the volume whereas "C:\" is the root directory on the
>>>  volume?
>> this is what I thought, kind of, but I was just proposing what the OP
>> was expecting.
> 
> the OP?
> 
>> it does make one think a little about the small discrepancy with regard to
>> whether the slash is 'appended' or not depending on whether the dir is
>> the root or not:
>>
>> php -r ' echo dirname("/Users"),"\n", dirname("/Users/foo"),"\n"; '
>>
>> /
>> /Users
> 
> You ask the directory name of a path. In the first case, you ask the
> directory name of the path /Users (or /Users/), it is "/". The
> directory name of the path "/Users/foo" is "/Users". Everything works
> as expected as far as I can see.

I agree, I was merely pondering out loud, no problems as such.

> 
> 
>> which means one cannot blindly say:
>>
>> include __DIR__."/somefile";
> 
> Little notice: OSes without volumes will work smoothly. For those with
> volumes (windows, novell afair) willl use the current volume.
> 
>> although that's probably moot because my experience is that extraneous slashes
>> in a path are, afaik, always ignored. i.e. /foo//foo//foo == /foo/foo/foo,
>> so really there is nothing to see here.
> 
> Yes, PHP is very tolerant (and brought us some headaches too in the
> pasts :). It is also tolerant with \ or / usages.

I can imagine it has caused headaches for dev's working with the underlying implementation ..
I for one am grateful it's so tolerant ... more than once have I noticed some badly defined
paths working without a problem, months after the code was originally written.

3 cheers for tolerance :-)

> 
> Cheers,