Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35236 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78407 invoked by uid 1010); 6 Feb 2008 10:33:07 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78392 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 10:33:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 10:33:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.160 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.160 smtpout0160.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.160] ([64.97.136.160:36326] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AC/70-03555-2EC89A74 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:33:07 -0500 Received: from sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 4769F9180057686D; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:32:05 +0000 X-SpamScore: 50 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 50,0,0,d43f80a2a1278713,942ddd6a8e1e3a25,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:960:967:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1538:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2110:2393:2525:2553:2561:2564:2682:2685:2828:2857:2859:2892:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3350:3622:3770:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3871:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:4250:5007:6119: 6120:6261:7653:7679,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (62-31-252-198.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.252.198]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out02.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <00c201c868ab$a3710ad0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Pierre Joye" , "Marco" Cc: "Derick Rethans" , "Marcus Boerger" , "internals" References: <01c801c865d8$2e837e90$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <14581063.20080203002104@marcus-boerger.de> <005201c8660f$66a2b160$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <00f501c86743$e5122320$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <2fd662a00802060057r51bdbb6dqd0b6c65133424618@mail.gmail.com> <005101c868a2$aaf235d0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <2fd662a00802060212v245b9645q2449735c0d660667@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:32:54 -0000 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") Hi Pierre, > The main reason (from my experiences) for the ISP is lazynes. They > don't care about what the users may need or not but simply run > configure, make make install, or use the distribtutions default > package to run common applications like phpmyadmin or wordpress. That's a heck of an assumption to make, given that we're presenting non-PHP users with 100+ packages and no information...! - Steph > > Cheers, > -- > Pierre > http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org