Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:35232 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49402 invoked by uid 1010); 6 Feb 2008 09:28:51 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49387 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2008 09:28:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Feb 2008 09:28:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@zend.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 64.97.136.149 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.97.136.149 smtpout0149.sc1.he.tucows.com Solaris 8 (1) Received: from [64.97.136.149] ([64.97.136.149:44784] helo=n068.sc1.he.tucows.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 83/EC-03555-1DD79A74 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:28:51 -0500 Received: from sc1-out08.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 4769316E009595CB; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:27:53 +0000 X-SpamScore: 2 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 2,0,0,5f17f8f2f497999e,942ddd6a8e1e3a25,steph@zend.com,-,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1539:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2378:2379:2393:2559:2562:2828:3027:3352:3622:3865:3866:3867:3869:3870:3872:3873:3874:4250:5007:6120:6261:7653,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from foxbox (62-31-252-198.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.252.198]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by sc1-out08.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <005101c868a2$aaf235d0$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> Reply-To: "Steph Fox" To: "Marco" , "Derick Rethans" Cc: "Marcus Boerger" , "internals" References: <01c801c865d8$2e837e90$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <14581063.20080203002104@marcus-boerger.de> <005201c8660f$66a2b160$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <00f501c86743$e5122320$c6fc1f3e@foxbox> <2fd662a00802060057r51bdbb6dqd0b6c65133424618@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:28:41 -0000 Organization: Zend Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox") Hi both, > I totally agree, most hosts just install what comes as default with a > distribution, they don't care or even bother with PECL in 99% of cases in > my > experience. Well - that can't be entirely true or there'd be next to no MySQL support out there! I just think we make it needlessly difficult for people (including/especially hosts) to find their way around PECL at present. Maybe a better way to go would be to start distributing an 'A1 pack' (there has to be a better name) _before_ moving anything more out to it from the core distribution. At least that way there'd be the possibility of moving things out of core - at present if you do that you're just consigning extensions to oblivion. - Steph