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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Splitting the subject: the PECL/PHP relationship
From: steph@zend.com ("Steph Fox")

Hi Lukas,

> I am not sure if I misunderstood some other persons proposal, but at 
> least my proposal was that the final thing we ship as version xyz of  PHP 
> would include a set of PECL extensions along with core that we  deem as 
> necessary for the bulk of our users solving the web problem.

That's exactly what happens now, under doze at least. It doesn't solve the 
web problem because there are so many extensions shipped with the core. 
Every PHP release is accompanied by the core extensions and SAPIs as part of 
the core bundle, all PECL extensions available as a separate bundle, and 
absolutely no advice about the status of those extensions.

> As such we could even publish a list of additional extensions we 
> recommend to hosters to also install, though the question is if we can 
> also QA them as part of the release process.

I don't know if publishing a list would be half as useful as marking stuff 
'stable', 'actively maintained'... if the pecl commands in the PEAR 
installer actually worked under doze, we could easily do all this. (It would 
be even better if you didn't actually need to install PEAR to use the PEAR 
installer.)

- Steph

>
> regards,
> Lukas
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